Date: 30/06/2018 15:37:52
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1246433
Subject: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Who says smoking pot does hurt anyone?

>>Populations of Humboldt martens (Martes americana humboldtensis) have already been struck down thanks to years of shrinking habitat. But it’s taken the proliferation of marijuana farms for the California Department of Fish and Wildlife to finally take steps to have them listed as endangered.<<

>>Clearing land for the crops is just the start of their woes. To keep rodents from chewing on plastic irrigation tubing and being a general nuisance, farmers are turning to a heavy duty anticoagulant in the form of a bait.

Rats and mice eat the rodenticide, in turn becoming a deadly snack for predators like the Humboldt marten.

Sound familiar? Only a few months ago the very same problem was linked with the dead bodies of two species of endangered owl.<<

https://www.sciencealert.com/humboldt-marten-endangered-species-petition-cannabis-cultivation-baits?perpetual=yes&limitstart=1

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Date: 30/06/2018 15:43:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246436
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

They need to look at how to mix things together to create a better harmony.

Find something that works.

Then roll it out to other similar plantations.

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Date: 30/06/2018 16:46:01
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246444
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

I think more work needs to be done on farm preparation in relation to native animals when people are setting up new farms.

Things like farmers taking to park rangers to discover what plants the creatures need, what they eat, general behaviors, how better to farm things in harmony with nature.

and I’m sure a lot of similar work has been done on that around the world.

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Date: 30/06/2018 16:48:12
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1246445
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Tau.Neutrino said:


I think more work needs to be done on farm preparation in relation to native animals when people are setting up new farms.

Things like farmers taking to park rangers to discover what plants the creatures need, what they eat, general behaviors, how better to farm things in harmony with nature.

and I’m sure a lot of similar work has been done on that around the world.

I think those people are just interested in growing pot.

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Date: 30/06/2018 16:51:38
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246449
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I think more work needs to be done on farm preparation in relation to native animals when people are setting up new farms.

Things like farmers taking to park rangers to discover what plants the creatures need, what they eat, general behaviors, how better to farm things in harmony with nature.

and I’m sure a lot of similar work has been done on that around the world.

I think those people are just interested in growing pot.

It says a lot about their farming permits

Not much regard to native plants and animals.

Too much gun ho attitude.

If the Americans keep shooting each other they will become extinct as well.

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Date: 30/06/2018 16:56:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246450
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

One would think that with 400 years of U.S Federal Government they would have things like farm preparation and native sustainability sorted.

but it looks like they haven’t.

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Date: 30/06/2018 16:59:21
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1246451
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Tau.Neutrino said:


One would think that with 400 years of U.S Federal Government they would have things like farm preparation and native sustainability sorted.

but it looks like they haven’t.

Ummmm 400 years ago California was part of Mexico and the USA didn’t exist.

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:00:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246452
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Witty Rejoinder said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

One would think that with 400 years of U.S Federal Government they would have things like farm preparation and native sustainability sorted.

but it looks like they haven’t.

Ummmm 400 years ago California was part of Mexico and the USA didn’t exist.

ok a bit later then.

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:28:36
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1246459
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I think more work needs to be done on farm preparation in relation to native animals when people are setting up new farms.

Things like farmers taking to park rangers to discover what plants the creatures need, what they eat, general behaviors, how better to farm things in harmony with nature.

and I’m sure a lot of similar work has been done on that around the world.

I think those people are just interested in growing pot.

It says a lot about their farming permits

Not much regard to native plants and animals.

Too much gun ho attitude.

If the Americans keep shooting each other they will become extinct as well.

I would not think it gives permission for them to go into the bush, clear it and grow pot.

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:31:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1246462
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Why would rats and mice eat marijuana?

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:35:34
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1246463
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

mollwollfumble said:


Why would rats and mice eat marijuana?

“…To keep rodents from chewing on plastic irrigation tubing…”

from the OP.

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:36:57
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1246464
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

mollwollfumble said:


Why would rats and mice eat marijuana?

More the pot growers think they would. I have found Marijuana seedlings growing in the bush around here and they had a packet of ratsak spread around the plot too.

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:37:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246465
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Here is what one of the little creatures looks like.

Some of tax many should go into saving them and managing cannabis farms within some decent sustainable framework.

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:38:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246466
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Tau.Neutrino said:

opps

Here is what one of the little creatures looks like.

Some of cannabis tax money should go into saving them and managing cannabis farms within some decent sustainable framework.

Humboldt martens (Martes americana humboldtensis)

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:49:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1246470
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

Why would rats and mice eat marijuana?

More the pot growers think they would. I have found Marijuana seedlings growing in the bush around here and they had a packet of ratsak spread around the plot too.

With regard to the cultivation site, applicants must provide evidence that the applicant has the legal right to occupy and use the proposed location. If the applicant is the owner of the location, this evidence should include a copy of the title or deed to the property. If the applicant is not the owner of the property, the applicant shall provide the DFA with the following:

A document from the property owner that states the applicant has the right to occupy the property and acknowledges that the applicant may use the property for commercial cannabis cultivation;
Property owner’s mailing address and phone number;
Copy of the lease or rental agreement, or other contractual documentation.

https://www.cannalawblog.com/california-cannabis-cultivation-licensing-rules/

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:49:47
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246471
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

this bit

With maybe a hundred or so believed to be slinking through Northern California’s forests – and a small population clinging to dear life in Oregon – it’s still shockingly close to vanishing in the wild.

There have been previous efforts to encourage the government to act. Groups like the Center for Biological Diversity and the Environmental Protection and Information Center (EPIC) have been trying to get action on the matter for years.

Now the State of California has issued a report detailing the plight of the Humboldt marten, serving as a basis for a recommendation to the California Fish and Game Commission to get it listed as endangered.

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Date: 30/06/2018 17:50:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1246473
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

and this bit

Cannabis can now be owned and grown in California, providing opportunity for economic growth and freeing police resources to focus on things other than pot.

Following changes to state law, adults can apply for a license to cultivate cannabis crops.

That doesn’t mean everybody follows the rules; by some estimates, fewer than one in a hundred growers have a license. With literally thousands of cultivation sites popping up across the state, all of this makes for a challenging problem to solve.

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Date: 30/06/2018 18:18:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1246510
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

Which reminds me. I must put our ratsack out.

Marten. Not Martin. I know, I’m being silly.

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Date: 30/06/2018 18:24:24
From: Michael V
ID: 1246519
Subject: re: Sprawling Marijuana Farms Are Driving This Adorable Little Creature to Extinction

mollwollfumble said:


Which reminds me. I must put our ratsack out.

Marten. Not Martin. I know, I’m being silly.


Medical school, to boot!

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