Date: 6/07/2018 14:16:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1249104
Subject: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

>>If you’re a fan of frogs, then unfortunately you’ve probably heard of Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis (Bd). More commonly known as chytrid fungus, it’s been decimating amphibian populations around the world.

Bd causes a disease known as chytridiomycosis, which attacks the skin of frogs, toads and salamanders. As a result, the animals lose control of their ability to regulate their water and electrolyte levels, ultimately leading to heart failure. The geographic origins of the fungus have remained a mystery, limiting attempts to stop it at its source.<<

The above has decimated many frog populations throughout the world including Australia.

https://newatlas.com/frog-fungus-origin/55331

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Date: 6/07/2018 14:20:32
From: Cymek
ID: 1249106
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

PermeateFree said:


>>If you’re a fan of frogs, then unfortunately you’ve probably heard of Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis (Bd). More commonly known as chytrid fungus, it’s been decimating amphibian populations around the world.

Bd causes a disease known as chytridiomycosis, which attacks the skin of frogs, toads and salamanders. As a result, the animals lose control of their ability to regulate their water and electrolyte levels, ultimately leading to heart failure. The geographic origins of the fungus have remained a mystery, limiting attempts to stop it at its source.<<

The above has decimated many frog populations throughout the world including Australia.

https://newatlas.com/frog-fungus-origin/55331

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

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Date: 6/07/2018 14:43:32
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1249113
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

>>If you’re a fan of frogs, then unfortunately you’ve probably heard of Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis (Bd). More commonly known as chytrid fungus, it’s been decimating amphibian populations around the world.

Bd causes a disease known as chytridiomycosis, which attacks the skin of frogs, toads and salamanders. As a result, the animals lose control of their ability to regulate their water and electrolyte levels, ultimately leading to heart failure. The geographic origins of the fungus have remained a mystery, limiting attempts to stop it at its source.<<

The above has decimated many frog populations throughout the world including Australia.

https://newatlas.com/frog-fungus-origin/55331

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

The spread of disease is a big one. There is usually some reason why frog colonies live in different places even within the same species, they may have inherited a genome that is of assistance to them, but a disadvantage to others and so could displace the original colony.

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Date: 6/07/2018 14:47:06
From: Cymek
ID: 1249115
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

PermeateFree said:


Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

>>If you’re a fan of frogs, then unfortunately you’ve probably heard of Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis (Bd). More commonly known as chytrid fungus, it’s been decimating amphibian populations around the world.

Bd causes a disease known as chytridiomycosis, which attacks the skin of frogs, toads and salamanders. As a result, the animals lose control of their ability to regulate their water and electrolyte levels, ultimately leading to heart failure. The geographic origins of the fungus have remained a mystery, limiting attempts to stop it at its source.<<

The above has decimated many frog populations throughout the world including Australia.

https://newatlas.com/frog-fungus-origin/55331

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

The spread of disease is a big one. There is usually some reason why frog colonies live in different places even within the same species, they may have inherited a genome that is of assistance to them, but a disadvantage to others and so could displace the original colony.

Can you catch the tadpoles and raise them to frogs and then release then, would more survive this way

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Date: 6/07/2018 15:20:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1249123
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

The spread of disease is a big one. There is usually some reason why frog colonies live in different places even within the same species, they may have inherited a genome that is of assistance to them, but a disadvantage to others and so could displace the original colony.

Can you catch the tadpoles and raise them to frogs and then release then, would more survive this way

Not sure what you mean? To escape the fungal disease or introduce them to a new environment. As the disease only affects the adult frogs then those raised from tadpoles would do no better. To protect the tadpoles from predators and the drying of their puddles, then yes more would survive, but placed in a new environment could still displace local species.

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Date: 6/07/2018 15:29:16
From: Cymek
ID: 1249128
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

PermeateFree said:


Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

The spread of disease is a big one. There is usually some reason why frog colonies live in different places even within the same species, they may have inherited a genome that is of assistance to them, but a disadvantage to others and so could displace the original colony.

Can you catch the tadpoles and raise them to frogs and then release then, would more survive this way

Not sure what you mean? To escape the fungal disease or introduce them to a new environment. As the disease only affects the adult frogs then those raised from tadpoles would do no better. To protect the tadpoles from predators and the drying of their puddles, then yes more would survive, but placed in a new environment could still displace local species.

The later as I do remember from childhood tadpole’s dying when the water dried up.
Local species is how specific ?, if they came from across the road would that still displace a colony

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Date: 6/07/2018 15:42:55
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1249129
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

Cymek said:

Can you catch the tadpoles and raise them to frogs and then release then, would more survive this way

Not sure what you mean? To escape the fungal disease or introduce them to a new environment. As the disease only affects the adult frogs then those raised from tadpoles would do no better. To protect the tadpoles from predators and the drying of their puddles, then yes more would survive, but placed in a new environment could still displace local species.

The later as I do remember from childhood tadpole’s dying when the water dried up.
Local species is how specific ?, if they came from across the road would that still displace a colony

Shouldn’t think so, the adult frogs move naturally over a much larger range, so basically part of the same community.

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Date: 6/07/2018 15:49:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1249131
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

PermeateFree said:


Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Not sure what you mean? To escape the fungal disease or introduce them to a new environment. As the disease only affects the adult frogs then those raised from tadpoles would do no better. To protect the tadpoles from predators and the drying of their puddles, then yes more would survive, but placed in a new environment could still displace local species.

The later as I do remember from childhood tadpole’s dying when the water dried up.
Local species is how specific ?, if they came from across the road would that still displace a colony

Shouldn’t think so, the adult frogs move naturally over a much larger range, so basically part of the same community.

Ok thanks

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:10:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1249166
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

>>If you’re a fan of frogs, then unfortunately you’ve probably heard of Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis (Bd). More commonly known as chytrid fungus, it’s been decimating amphibian populations around the world.

Bd causes a disease known as chytridiomycosis, which attacks the skin of frogs, toads and salamanders. As a result, the animals lose control of their ability to regulate their water and electrolyte levels, ultimately leading to heart failure. The geographic origins of the fungus have remained a mystery, limiting attempts to stop it at its source.<<

The above has decimated many frog populations throughout the world including Australia.

https://newatlas.com/frog-fungus-origin/55331

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

It is why the nvironment should be left the way it is rather than change it.

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:18:14
From: Cymek
ID: 1249170
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

>>If you’re a fan of frogs, then unfortunately you’ve probably heard of Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis (Bd). More commonly known as chytrid fungus, it’s been decimating amphibian populations around the world.

Bd causes a disease known as chytridiomycosis, which attacks the skin of frogs, toads and salamanders. As a result, the animals lose control of their ability to regulate their water and electrolyte levels, ultimately leading to heart failure. The geographic origins of the fungus have remained a mystery, limiting attempts to stop it at its source.<<

The above has decimated many frog populations throughout the world including Australia.

https://newatlas.com/frog-fungus-origin/55331

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

It is why the nvironment should be left the way it is rather than change it.

Can you not rescue tadpoles from a drying up water and try to raise them to frogs and let them go

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:19:48
From: Michael V
ID: 1249173
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

roughbarked said:


Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

>>If you’re a fan of frogs, then unfortunately you’ve probably heard of Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis (Bd). More commonly known as chytrid fungus, it’s been decimating amphibian populations around the world.

Bd causes a disease known as chytridiomycosis, which attacks the skin of frogs, toads and salamanders. As a result, the animals lose control of their ability to regulate their water and electrolyte levels, ultimately leading to heart failure. The geographic origins of the fungus have remained a mystery, limiting attempts to stop it at its source.<<

The above has decimated many frog populations throughout the world including Australia.

https://newatlas.com/frog-fungus-origin/55331

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

It is why the nvironment should be left the way it is rather than change it.

Then there is bugger all food.

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:22:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 1249177
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Is the why they say not to remove frogs and or displace them into other areas

It is why the nvironment should be left the way it is rather than change it.

Then there is bugger all food.

There needn’t be so many of us.

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:23:01
From: Cymek
ID: 1249180
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

It is why the nvironment should be left the way it is rather than change it.

Then there is bugger all food.

There needn’t be so many of us.

The Thanos solution ?

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:32:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1249190
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

It is why the nvironment should be left the way it is rather than change it.

Then there is bugger all food.

There needn’t be so many of us.

That cat is well and truly out of the bag, unfortunately. Who would you propose to kill or sterilise?

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:38:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1249201
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Then there is bugger all food.

There needn’t be so many of us.

That cat is well and truly out of the bag, unfortunately. Who would you propose to kill or sterilise?

I won’t be around a lot longer and I’ve done my bit. Zero population growth and millions of trees. Lotsa dead cats and other ferals.

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:43:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1249207
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

There needn’t be so many of us.

That cat is well and truly out of the bag, unfortunately. Who would you propose to kill or sterilise?

I won’t be around a lot longer and I’ve done my bit. Zero population growth and millions of trees. Lotsa dead cats and other ferals.

Pol Pot and Hitler didn’t abrogate their responsibilities in this regard, either…

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:47:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1249214
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

That cat is well and truly out of the bag, unfortunately. Who would you propose to kill or sterilise?

I won’t be around a lot longer and I’ve done my bit. Zero population growth and millions of trees. Lotsa dead cats and other ferals.

Pol Pot and Hitler didn’t abrogate their responsibilities in this regard, either…

Maybe but it isn’t my style.

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Date: 6/07/2018 17:56:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1249224
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

I won’t be around a lot longer and I’ve done my bit. Zero population growth and millions of trees. Lotsa dead cats and other ferals.

Pol Pot and Hitler didn’t abrogate their responsibilities in this regard, either…

Maybe but it isn’t my style.

Anyway, I agree that the world is well and truly overpopulated, and that that overpopulation is causing many of the significant problems I see for other species and the planet in general.

I can’t see any fair, equitable and sensible way of fast population reduction, either. In a way, I think it’s best I just resign myself to the problem, and ignore it.

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Date: 6/07/2018 18:01:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1249230
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Pol Pot and Hitler didn’t abrogate their responsibilities in this regard, either…

Maybe but it isn’t my style.

Anyway, I agree that the world is well and truly overpopulated, and that that overpopulation is causing many of the significant problems I see for other species and the planet in general.

I can’t see any fair, equitable and sensible way of fast population reduction, either. In a way, I think it’s best I just resign myself to the problem, and ignore it.

We can individually do things ourselves. I chose to not have any more than two children and planted a lot of trees, gave trees to others to plant, educated, became a vegetarian for the earth’s sake.

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Date: 6/07/2018 18:02:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1249231
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Maybe but it isn’t my style.

Anyway, I agree that the world is well and truly overpopulated, and that that overpopulation is causing many of the significant problems I see for other species and the planet in general.

I can’t see any fair, equitable and sensible way of fast population reduction, either. In a way, I think it’s best I just resign myself to the problem, and ignore it.

We can individually do things ourselves. I chose to not have any more than two children and planted a lot of trees, gave trees to others to plant, educated, became a vegetarian for the earth’s sake.

Otherwise we have to go with th flow and allow nature to take its course. No doubt it will and we will become the shortest lived of all species.

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Date: 6/07/2018 18:13:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1249241
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Pol Pot and Hitler didn’t abrogate their responsibilities in this regard, either…

Maybe but it isn’t my style.

Anyway, I agree that the world is well and truly overpopulated, and that that overpopulation is causing many of the significant problems I see for other species and the planet in general.

I can’t see any fair, equitable and sensible way of fast population reduction, either. In a way, I think it’s best I just resign myself to the problem, and ignore it.

Yes we have chosen our bed around 10.000 years ago and having being given that respite, we made the most of it by having as many children as we could. We really now have nowhere to go.

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Date: 6/07/2018 18:15:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1249243
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Maybe but it isn’t my style.

Anyway, I agree that the world is well and truly overpopulated, and that that overpopulation is causing many of the significant problems I see for other species and the planet in general.

I can’t see any fair, equitable and sensible way of fast population reduction, either. In a way, I think it’s best I just resign myself to the problem, and ignore it.

Yes we have chosen our bed around 10.000 years ago and having being given that respite, we made the most of it by having as many children as we could. We really now have nowhere to go.

That is about it.

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Date: 7/07/2018 03:33:36
From: Ogmog
ID: 1249428
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Make Room, Make Room

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Date: 7/07/2018 03:34:38
From: Ogmog
ID: 1249429
Subject: re: Origins of deadly frog fungus traced to Korea

Make Room, Make Room

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