Date: 10/02/2026 12:18:00
From: captain_spalding
ID: 2359180
Subject: re: Epstein emails

Cymek said:


captain_spalding said:

esselte said:

Observed characteristics of suicidal hangings: an 11-year retrospective review

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22845010/

Abstract

Many studies have been published regarding suicidal hanging deaths, and most forensic pathologists and coroners are very familiar with such causes of death. Forensic pathologists are challenged over their rulings regarding manner of death in part because the general public has a limited scope of knowledge. One such challenge centers on the question of whether a hanging can be a suicide if the individual is not fully suspended. The authors designed a retrospective study to review suspension in hangings and to analyze other criteria used to help in deciding manner of death. We examined 229 suicidal hanging deaths over an 11-year period (1997 through early 2009) using the data from two separate jurisdictions in Ohio. In conclusion, we found that the vast majority (83.4%) of people who hanged themselves were found partially suspended.

Robert Ley, Hitler’s labour minister, ‘hanged’ himself in his Nuremberg cell while sitting down.

He made a ‘rope’ from a strip of towel, tied it to a water pipe behind his toilet, sat on the toilet and tied the rope around his neck, and leaned forward to tighten the noose and strangle himself.

I imagine if you are in a cell and determined to hang yourself you’ll likely find a way.
I wonder if they get someone to check cells to see if it can be done as preventative measures

For the Nuremberg prisoners, the guards outside were under instructions to let no more than thirty seconds elapse between visual checks on any prisoner, via the peephole slot in the cell doors (the International Military Tribunal was very keen to see that they all faced trial)

The toilets were in small alcoves, just to the side of the cell. When prisoners sat on the toilet, their lower legs and feet were visible through from the cell door.

So, Ley’s guard saw nothing suspicious in Ley being on the toilet for several minutes. When he realised it was too long, it was also too late.

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