Good morning Holidayers. Presently 11 degrees, overcast and lightly mizzly. We are forecast a cloudy 21 with possible drizzle.

I’m going to do my stretches, eat something and head over to Casterton to the good butcher. The freezer is low on flesh. Then I’ll get chocolates from the Coleraine chocolate factory on the way back and do the supermarket shopping in Hamilton before heading home again. Of course, then I have to pack all the meat (we buy a big lot of meat about every 6-8 weeks) into the freezer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nábrók

Link

Nábrók (calqued as necropants, literally “corpse britches”) are a pair of pants made from the skin of a dead human, which are believed in Icelandic witchcraft to be capable of producing an endless supply of money. It is highly unlikely these pants ever existed outside of folklore

I need to get dressed and head off. I’ll look in again this afternoon.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/black-sheep/story/2018668285/headhunter-the-story-of-horatio-robley-part-1#:~:text=Horatio%20Robley%20witnessed%20the%20most,of%20nearly%2040%20human%20heads.

Link.

Headhunter: the story of Horatio Robley

Horatio Robley witnessed the most famous battle of the New Zealand Wars, he fathered a child with the daughter of a sworn enemy, his sketching helped end a war and his book helped save the art of Māori tattooing.

But mostly he’s famous for his grotesque collection of nearly 40 human heads.

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/black-sheep/story/2018668285/headhunter-the-story-of-horatio-robley-part-1#:~:text=Horatio%20Robley%20witnessed%20the%20most,of%20nearly%2040%20human%20heads.

Link.

Headhunter: the story of Horatio Robley

Horatio Robley witnessed the most famous battle of the New Zealand Wars, he fathered a child with the daughter of a sworn enemy, his sketching helped end a war and his book helped save the art of Māori tattooing.

But mostly he’s famous for his grotesque collection of nearly 40 human heads.

There was quite a lot of human head collecting done in NZ, if I recall correctly.

Do we have to plaant bins of these by hand?

Ah good, they’ve got a planter but the bloody thing looks too small.

roughbarked said:

Do we have to plaant bins of these by hand?

Ah good, they’ve got a planter but the bloody thing looks too small.

What crop is that?

Witty Rejoinder said:

roughbarked said:

Do we have to plaant bins of these by hand?

Ah good, they’ve got a planter but the bloody thing looks too small.

What crop is that?

garlic

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/black-sheep/story/2018668285/headhunter-the-story-of-horatio-robley-part-1#:~:text=Horatio%20Robley%20witnessed%20the%20most,of%20nearly%2040%20human%20heads.

Link.

Headhunter: the story of Horatio Robley

Horatio Robley witnessed the most famous battle of the New Zealand Wars, he fathered a child with the daughter of a sworn enemy, his sketching helped end a war and his book helped save the art of Māori tattooing.

But mostly he’s famous for his grotesque collection of nearly 40 human heads.

There was quite a lot of human head collecting done in NZ, if I recall correctly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokomokai

Link

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/black-sheep/story/2018668285/headhunter-the-story-of-horatio-robley-part-1#:~:text=Horatio%20Robley%20witnessed%20the%20most,of%20nearly%2040%20human%20heads.

Link.

Headhunter: the story of Horatio Robley

Horatio Robley witnessed the most famous battle of the New Zealand Wars, he fathered a child with the daughter of a sworn enemy, his sketching helped end a war and his book helped save the art of Māori tattooing.

But mostly he’s famous for his grotesque collection of nearly 40 human heads.

There was quite a lot of human head collecting done in NZ, if I recall correctly.

Lots of opportunities in NZ back then.

‘If you want to get ahead, go to New Zealand’, they used to say.

ChrispenEvan said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/black-sheep/story/2018668285/headhunter-the-story-of-horatio-robley-part-1#:~:text=Horatio%20Robley%20witnessed%20the%20most,of%20nearly%2040%20human%20heads.

Link.

Headhunter: the story of Horatio Robley

Horatio Robley witnessed the most famous battle of the New Zealand Wars, he fathered a child with the daughter of a sworn enemy, his sketching helped end a war and his book helped save the art of Māori tattooing.

But mostly he’s famous for his grotesque collection of nearly 40 human heads.

There was quite a lot of human head collecting done in NZ, if I recall correctly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokomokai

Link

Ta. That refreshed the old grey matter on the subject.

Huge Aurora Australis lights up Tasmanian sky

https://pulsehobart.com.au/news/huge-aurora-australis-lights-up-tasmanian-sky/

‘Building blocks of life’ recovered from asteroid Ryugu are older than the solar system itself

By Stephanie Pappas published 28 February 2023

The first analyses of samples brought back from the asteroid Ryugu show that this space rock contains some of the molecules needed for life.

https://www.livescience.com/building-blocks-of-life-recovered-from-asteroid-ryugu-are-older-than-the-solar-system-itself

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

Peak Warming Man said:

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

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never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

Link

never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

Don’t recall it either.

I suspect it’s more of a Merkinism.

Waiting for the GP to call. Phone appointment about that biopsy on the funny patch on my arm.

I’m not expecting bad news or he would have dealt with it more urgently.

Hello

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

Link

never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

I knew about this as a kid.

Cymek said:

Hello

HELLO

kii said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

Link

never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

I knew about this as a kid.

Me too, my mum introduced me to it.

Bubblecar said:

Waiting for the GP to call. Phone appointment about that biopsy on the funny patch on my arm.

I’m not expecting bad news or he would have dealt with it more urgently.

People can get on just fine with one arm, you’ll be ok.

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

Link

never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

I’ve heard of it. My mother used to refer to it a bit.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Waiting for the GP to call. Phone appointment about that biopsy on the funny patch on my arm.

I’m not expecting bad news or he would have dealt with it more urgently.

People can get on just fine with one arm, you’ll be ok.

Depending on the arm lost it’s like having a new girlfriend/boyfriend

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

Link

never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

I knew about this as a kid.

Me too, my mum introduced me to it.

Seems we’re the only normal people in this place. That’s a worry.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Waiting for the GP to call. Phone appointment about that biopsy on the funny patch on my arm.

I’m not expecting bad news or he would have dealt with it more urgently.

People can get on just fine with one arm, you’ll be ok.

some morning positivity

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

Link

never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

Well there you are, it is a thing, or was.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Waiting for the GP to call. Phone appointment about that biopsy on the funny patch on my arm.

I’m not expecting bad news or he would have dealt with it more urgently.

People can get on just fine with one arm, you’ll be ok.

I wish he’d hurry up though because I’m wanting a brunch of egg & chips.

Nothing worse than getting a phone call just when you’re about to dip a chip into the yolk.

kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

I knew about this as a kid.

Me too, my mum introduced me to it.

Seems we’re the only normal people in this place. That’s a worry.

Most accurate thing I’ve seen for a while!

fucken galahs out there, lady was up three times this morn shooing them away

nice bird, but prolific, and vocal, likes chewing tops the trees off too

Spiny Norman said:

kii said:

Spiny Norman said:

Me too, my mum introduced me to it.

Seems we’re the only normal people in this place. That’s a worry.

Most accurate thing I’ve seen for a while!

I used to have psychiatrist who would happily testify that i’m quite normal.

I don’t know if we could find anyone to say the same about her.

GP called with the biopsy results: nothing to worry about, it’s just a patch of dermatitis.

Bubblecar said:

GP called with the biopsy results: nothing to worry about, it’s just a patch of dermatitis.

Good news!

I’m forecasting that we will skip autumn and go straight to winter.

Bubblecar said:

GP called with the biopsy results: nothing to worry about, it’s just a patch of dermatitis.

…but while I was on the phone with the GP the estate agent called me on the other phone. I asked her to call back in a few minutes.

I hope it’s not terrible news about the house being up for sale or suchlike :/

Bubblecar said:

GP called with the biopsy results: nothing to worry about, it’s just a patch of dermatitis.

He probably never even sent it off.

Tau.Neutrino said:

I’m forecasting that we will skip autumn and go straight to winter.

Provided we get some winter rain that’s OK with me.

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

GP called with the biopsy results: nothing to worry about, it’s just a patch of dermatitis.

Good news!

It is, but I knew it probably would be as the GP’s advice all along was “it’s probably just dermatitis, but to be on the safe side blah blah…”

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

GP called with the biopsy results: nothing to worry about, it’s just a patch of dermatitis.

He probably never even sent it off.

What? and forego the kickback from the path lab?!

(Joke)

https://www.politico.eu/article/putin-jk-rowling-proof-west-cancel-culture/

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LOL, if Putin reckons she’s OK…

Bubblecar said:

Bubblecar said:

GP called with the biopsy results: nothing to worry about, it’s just a patch of dermatitis.

…but while I was on the phone with the GP the estate agent called me on the other phone. I asked her to call back in a few minutes.

I hope it’s not terrible news about the house being up for sale or suchlike :/

…no bad news, she just wanted to tell me the neighbours to the east will be building a new fence between our properties.

off into town to do stuff. dunno what yet but i’ll think of something i’m sure.

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

Kothos said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

I suppose if could depend on the time your body clock thinks it is.
You’d sleep when you’d normally do on Earth even though you are in space / on the moon and its not “night time”

Kothos said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

Like the Russian trains which are on Moscow time even when they are in Vladivostok.

Cymek said:

Kothos said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

I suppose if could depend on the time your body clock thinks it is.
You’d sleep when you’d normally do on Earth even though you are in space / on the moon and its not “night time”

Bit impractical when there are some US & some Russian astronauts.

Cymek said:

Kothos said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

I suppose if could depend on the time your body clock thinks it is.
You’d sleep when you’d normally do on Earth even though you are in space / on the moon and its not “night time”

They’d have to either keep a personal as well as an official time then, or prep by changing sleeping schedules. I mean it wouldn’t be much different to jet lag.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

I wonder what the time on Mars is?

I guess it depends where you are on Mars.

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

Kothos said:

What? Would they no just use GMT?

I suppose if could depend on the time your body clock thinks it is.
You’d sleep when you’d normally do on Earth even though you are in space / on the moon and its not “night time”

Bit impractical when there are some US & some Russian astronauts.

Yes so I imagine you’d have jet lag and need to readjust over time

Kothos said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

we prefer UTC but hey freedom

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

Cymek said:

I suppose if could depend on the time your body clock thinks it is.
You’d sleep when you’d normally do on Earth even though you are in space / on the moon and its not “night time”

Bit impractical when there are some US & some Russian astronauts.

Yes so I imagine you’d have jet lag and need to readjust over time

imagine if shift work existed, or Saturday night parties, or methamphetamine

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

Tamb said:

Bit impractical when there are some US & some Russian astronauts.

Yes so I imagine you’d have jet lag and need to readjust over time

imagine if shift work existed, or Saturday night parties, or methamphetamine

A time system linked to a lunar astronomical event.

SCIENCE said:

Kothos said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

we prefer UTC but hey freedom

Sorry I’m old and not great with change.

my reading, various related

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cingulate_cortex

“..In the human brain, the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) is the frontal part of the cingulate cortex that resembles a “collar” surrounding the frontal part of the corpus callosum. It consists of Brodmann areas 24, 32, and 33.

It is involved in certain higher-level functions, such as attention allocation, reward anticipation, decision-making, ethics and morality, impulse control (e.g. performance monitoring and error detection), and emotion..”

SCIENCE said:

Kothos said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Should the moon have its own time zone?

The European Space Agency said Monday that there is a need to establish some synchronicity in how we tell time on the Moon as many countries race to explore it.

more…

What? Would they no just use GMT?

we prefer UTC but hey freedom

International Universal Standard Queensland Time (IUSQT) would do just fine.

Catriona Roundtree is still looking good.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/tv/news/catriona-rowntree-leads-tributes-as-getaway-host-jeff-watson-dies/ar-AA1840Vk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7e745582d1af46a9854d14054c76a31a&ei=21

Murdoch goes lay down misère.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/28/rupert-murdoch-deposition-fox-news-dominion-voting-systems

Kothos said:

SCIENCE said:

Kothos said:

What? Would they no just use GMT?

we prefer UTC but hey freedom

Sorry I’m old and not great with change.

Peak Warming Man said:

Catriona Roundtree is still looking good.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/tv/news/catriona-rowntree-leads-tributes-as-getaway-host-jeff-watson-dies/ar-AA1840Vk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7e745582d1af46a9854d14054c76a31a&ei=21

She certainly is. I shared an elevator with her at last year’s Sydney Royal Easter Show. I spent the whole time thinking, “Hey that woman looks like a slightly older version of Catriona Rowntree.”

few peaches off the tree, try one of them with coffee in a moment

they’re yummy, pick rest shortly

Ian said:

Murdoch goes lay down misère.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/28/rupert-murdoch-deposition-fox-news-dominion-voting-systems

Why is he throwing his own organisation under the bus?

Ian said:

Murdoch goes lay down misère.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/28/rupert-murdoch-deposition-fox-news-dominion-voting-systems

Maybe he will go under the bus with all the employees he is kicking there.

transition said:

fucken galahs out there, lady was up three times this morn shooing them away

nice bird, but prolific, and vocal, likes chewing tops the trees off too

They are way less numerous than they used to be.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

fucken galahs out there, lady was up three times this morn shooing them away

nice bird, but prolific, and vocal, likes chewing tops the trees off too

They are way less numerous than they used to be.

If I was bird I’d feel some satisfaction making noises that annoy humans

Tau.Neutrino said:

I’m forecasting that we will skip autumn and go straight to winter.

Kothos said:

Ian said:

Murdoch goes lay down misère.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/28/rupert-murdoch-deposition-fox-news-dominion-voting-systems

Why is he throwing his own organisation under the bus?

Think he be mm..mm.m..mad.

Ian said:

Kothos said:

Ian said:

Murdoch goes lay down misère.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/28/rupert-murdoch-deposition-fox-news-dominion-voting-systems

Why is he throwing his own organisation under the bus?

Think he be mm..mm.m..mad.

He knows he can get away with it.

He knows, and the politicians know, that the Fox viewers will believe whatever reinforces their own viewpoint, even if Rupert Murdoch and Jesus Henry Theobald Auberon Christ himself knocked on their front door and jointly stated that everything that Fox says is a ludicrous fabrication.

And he and they know that those people vote, and so they don’t want Fox to say bad things about them.

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

Kothos said:

Why is he throwing his own organisation under the bus?

Think he be mm..mm.m..mad.

He knows he can get away with it.

He knows, and the politicians know, that the Fox viewers will believe whatever reinforces their own viewpoint, even if Rupert Murdoch and Jesus Henry Theobald Auberon Christ himself knocked on their front door and jointly stated that everything that Fox says is a ludicrous fabrication.

And he and they know that those people vote, and so they don’t want Fox to say bad things about them.

Poor Harry and Meaghan.

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

Think he be mm..mm.m..mad.

He knows he can get away with it.

He knows, and the politicians know, that the Fox viewers will believe whatever reinforces their own viewpoint, even if Rupert Murdoch and Jesus Henry Theobald Auberon Christ himself knocked on their front door and jointly stated that everything that Fox says is a ludicrous fabrication.

And he and they know that those people vote, and so they don’t want Fox to say bad things about them.

Poor Harry and Meaghan.

so

The Media Matters president added that, in his view, Murdoch’s extraordinary deposition – so out of kilter with his previous consummate survivor’s record – could be put down largely to hubris. “I think it was hubris,” Carusone said. “He thought he was untouchable.”

we suppose the Supreme Court are already captured so there goes the touch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit I suppose that’s where rabbiting on came from.

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

Any dogs about?

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

Where are you off to?

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

yeah we did similar some months back but it was raining then

Peak Warming Man said:

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

Any dogs about?

That’s nine miles isn’t it?

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

The Tucker Box cafe?

We’ve been there. Freezing cold day. Hot coffee and hot sticky date pudding with butterscotch sauce.

roughbarked said:

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

Where are you off to?

Home.

captain_spalding said:

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

The Tucker Box cafe?

We’ve been there. Freezing cold day. Hot coffee and hot sticky date pudding with butterscotch sauce.

21c, blue sky and fresh coffee.

fsm said:

roughbarked said:

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

Where are you off to?

Home.

Ah so you live in NSW?

fsm said:

captain_spalding said:

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

The Tucker Box cafe?

We’ve been there. Freezing cold day. Hot coffee and hot sticky date pudding with butterscotch sauce.

21c, blue sky and fresh coffee.

21c for a cup of coffee is good buying.

fsm said:

captain_spalding said:

fsm said:

Coffee break 5 miles from Gundagai.

The Tucker Box cafe?

We’ve been there. Freezing cold day. Hot coffee and hot sticky date pudding with butterscotch sauce.

21c, blue sky and fresh coffee.

20.5 °C clear blue sky and great coffee.

Peak Warming Man said:

fsm said:

captain_spalding said:

The Tucker Box cafe?

We’ve been there. Freezing cold day. Hot coffee and hot sticky date pudding with butterscotch sauce.

21c, blue sky and fresh coffee.

21c for a cup of coffee is good buying.

At that price, it’s probably Pablo.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

fsm said:

21c, blue sky and fresh coffee.

21c for a cup of coffee is good buying.

At that price, it’s probably Pablo.

Yes, it certainly wouldn’t be International Roast.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

fsm said:

21c, blue sky and fresh coffee.

21c for a cup of coffee is good buying.

At that price, it’s probably Pablo.

Too dear.

roughbarked said:

fsm said:

roughbarked said:

Where are you off to?

Home.

Ah so you live in NSW?

Yes, Central Coast. Should get home around 7:30 tonight.

Right, I’m back. The meat is packed into the freezer and the groceries distributed to the appropriate shelves in the pantry. I’ll just go back in time and see what you lot have been on about this morning while I was driving around the countryside. (I did around 200km this morning)

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

21c for a cup of coffee is good buying.

At that price, it’s probably Pablo.

Yes, it certainly wouldn’t be International Roast.

No, you have to ask for the ‘de luxe’ menu for that sort of thing.

captain_spalding said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

At that price, it’s probably Pablo.

Yes, it certainly wouldn’t be International Roast.

No, you have to ask for the ‘de luxe’ menu for that sort of thing.

Probably put all the dregs into a cup and microwave it hot

how to tell the time on the moon?

I believe they left a Bulova accutron on the first landing on the moon. I’ve always wondered what happened to it.

buffy said:

Right, I’m back. The meat is packed into the freezer and the groceries distributed to the appropriate shelves in the pantry. I’ll just go back in time and see what you lot have been on about this morning while I was driving around the countryside. (I did around 200km this morning)

that’s like going on holidays.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Right, I’m back. The meat is packed into the freezer and the groceries distributed to the appropriate shelves in the pantry. I’ll just go back in time and see what you lot have been on about this morning while I was driving around the countryside. (I did around 200km this morning)

that’s like going on holidays.

Tasmania is small enough for that to be about as far as you can drive anywhere.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Right, I’m back. The meat is packed into the freezer and the groceries distributed to the appropriate shelves in the pantry. I’ll just go back in time and see what you lot have been on about this morning while I was driving around the countryside. (I did around 200km this morning)

that’s like going on holidays.

She even visited a chocolate factory.

Cymek said:

Probably put all the dregs into a cup and microwave it hot

When i worked in a restaurant or two, one of the waitresses said that a customer had joked with her that the ‘house wine’ was made up of all the odd glassfuls and quart-bottles of wine left in bottles by customers on previous nights.

She said that she looked at him and said, straight-faced, ‘Sir, i can assure you that, by the time we leave here after close-up, there is NO left-over wine in any bottle’.

And she was not joking.

captain_spalding said:

Cymek said:

Probably put all the dregs into a cup and microwave it hot

When i worked in a restaurant or two, one of the waitresses said that a customer had joked with her that the ‘house wine’ was made up of all the odd glassfuls and quart-bottles of wine left in bottles by customers on previous nights.

She said that she looked at him and said, straight-faced, ‘Sir, i can assure you that, by the time we leave here after close-up, there is NO left-over wine in any bottle’.

And she was not joking.

Should read ‘quarter-bottles’.

“Trek-Segafredo cyclist Antonio Tiberi has been fined and suspended from his team for shooting dead a minister’s cat in San Marino.
The 21-year-old was reportedly testing an air rifle last June when he pointed it at his neighbour’s cat and fired – the lethal shot killing the feline.
The cat belonged to San Marino’s tourism and posts minister, and former head of state Federico Pedini Amati.”

Dear oh dear.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Trek-Segafredo cyclist Antonio Tiberi has been fined and suspended from his team for shooting dead a minister’s cat in San Marino.
The 21-year-old was reportedly testing an air rifle last June when he pointed it at his neighbour’s cat and fired – the lethal shot killing the feline.
The cat belonged to San Marino’s tourism and posts minister, and former head of state Federico Pedini Amati.”

Dear oh dear.

Well, at least the Minister now has the genuine article for pulling the ‘dead cat’ ploy when debate is going badly for him in San Marino’s Grand Council.

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

On the TAB Radio this morning they were talking about White Rabbit as a saying or some such for the first of the month.
I’ve never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_rabbit_rabbit

Link

never in all my born days have I heard of it either.

Me neither. Not in my unborn days either.

The Challenger is not cleaned inside and washed, goes in for a service tomorrow.
The brakes are making a bloodcurdling noise.
When I hit the brakes people stop and stare, mothers grab their babies and old women make the sign of the cross and run inside and draw the blinds.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Challenger is not cleaned inside and washed, goes in for a service tomorrow.
The brakes are making a bloodcurdling noise.
When I hit the brakes people stop and stare, mothers grab their babies and old women make the sign of the cross and run inside and draw the blinds.

not = now.

Peak Warming Man said:

“Trek-Segafredo cyclist Antonio Tiberi has been fined and suspended from his team for shooting dead a minister’s cat in San Marino.
The 21-year-old was reportedly testing an air rifle last June when he pointed it at his neighbour’s cat and fired – the lethal shot killing the feline.
The cat belonged to San Marino’s tourism and posts minister, and former head of state Federico Pedini Amati.”

Dear oh dear.

A catastrophe for all involved

Cymek said:

Peak Warming Man said:

“Trek-Segafredo cyclist Antonio Tiberi has been fined and suspended from his team for shooting dead a minister’s cat in San Marino.
The 21-year-old was reportedly testing an air rifle last June when he pointed it at his neighbour’s cat and fired – the lethal shot killing the feline.
The cat belonged to San Marino’s tourism and posts minister, and former head of state Federico Pedini Amati.”

Dear oh dear.

A catastrophe for all involved

Exactly, third world people just wouldn’t understand.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Challenger is not cleaned inside and washed, goes in for a service tomorrow.
The brakes are making a bloodcurdling noise.
When I hit the brakes people stop and stare, mothers grab their babies and old women make the sign of the cross and run inside and draw the blinds.

I thought you just destroyed utes?

Photo was taken in 1934

Astronomers Just Discovered A “Highly Habitable” Planet Just 4 light-Years From Us

http://amazingastronomy.thespaceacademy.org/2023/02/astronomers-just-discovered-highly.html?

sarahs mum said:

Photo was taken in 1934

I believe that they were rather a big-time act back then.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Right, I’m back. The meat is packed into the freezer and the groceries distributed to the appropriate shelves in the pantry. I’ll just go back in time and see what you lot have been on about this morning while I was driving around the countryside. (I did around 200km this morning)

that’s like going on holidays.

Oh, the excitements! And I had to use Local Knowledge. As I approached Muntham (a big hill that the trucks crawl up) there was roadworks and a stop light and “expect delays” signs. So I did a U turn, went up Shady’s Lane, which is a fabulous, narrow roller coaster road, across to the Lower Coleraine Road and went in to Casterton that way. You have to concentrate a lot more going that way, it’s bendy and windy and has some very steep spots which suddenly turn into 90 degree bends. And as I approached Casterton from Sandford…40km/hr signs again. It’s the drags this weekend and they were setting up the road. I came back along the Lower Coleraine Road as well, because they told me at the butcher’s that you have to sit there at the roadworks red light for about 565 minutes (may have been an exasperated exaggeration on the lady’s part). It wasn’t too bad, but I did meet a large semitrailer of hay coming the other way, and the road is so narrow I had to get completely off the road so we could pass each other. I was pleased I hadn’t met it at one of the blind bends or crests or corners. Got home safely though. I am still a tops driver. (A bit tired now, that’s all)

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

Witty Rejoinder said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Right, I’m back. The meat is packed into the freezer and the groceries distributed to the appropriate shelves in the pantry. I’ll just go back in time and see what you lot have been on about this morning while I was driving around the countryside. (I did around 200km this morning)

that’s like going on holidays.

She even visited a chocolate factory.

I did. I bought dark chocolate frogs, dark chocolate licorice bullets, peppermint sticks, dark couverture, and a couple of blocks of dark chocolate for Mr buffy. Anyone coming to my place to share?

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

Wow. Sqeezy is back.

Good to see you.

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

No valued member gets locked out here.

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

*waves

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

Well, welcome back. Good to see you again.

Most of us are still here, still crazy after all these years, as Paul Simon so neatly expressed it.

roughbarked said:

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

No valued member gets locked out here.

valued? perhaps not, but I’m very glad to see some familiar faces.. it’s kind of reassuring. :)

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

And fewer. Sadly.

sm…is tonight your GP’s Hard Quiz night?

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

That’s bullshit.

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe!

You made it to the fort!

Hey, everyone, the relief column is here!

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

I feel that on a visceral level at the moment… I have an impending rotation around the sun, not a significant one, but only one more year to go.

SqueezeBabe said:

roughbarked said:

SqueezeBabe said:

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

No valued member gets locked out here.

valued? perhaps not, but I’m very glad to see some familiar faces.. it’s kind of reassuring. :)

:)

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

That’s bullshit.

You grumpy old man.

captain_spalding said:

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

And fewer. Sadly.

Ya. Unfortunately not a lot you can do about that sort of thing sometimes, just keep hold of the good memories.

buffy said:

sm…is tonight your GP’s Hard Quiz night?

yep! ta. excellent reminding.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

That’s bullshit.

You grumpy old man.

You mean ‘grumpier, older man’.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That’s bullshit.

You grumpy old man.

You mean ‘grumpier, older man’.

Yeah that.

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

Is that the babe that likes to be squeezed, or the babe that likes to do the squeezing?

Woodie said:

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

Is that the babe that likes to be squeezed, or the babe that likes to do the squeezing?

hehehe, these days I’m quite happy to do both ^.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

sm…is tonight your GP’s Hard Quiz night?

yep! ta. excellent reminding.

I’ll put that in my notebook.

Speaking of doktars and nurses. I got my fifth jab today and my first JEV shot. Live virus.

Woodie said:

SqueezeBabe said:

~~blows the dust off everything~~

um… Hi?

Is that the babe that likes to be squeezed, or the babe that likes to do the squeezing?

She likes both I’m sure.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-28/tga-recalls-cancels-cough-medicines-pholcodine-ingredient/102035896

I heard about this recall on the radio in the car. I’ve just checked the cupboard. Our cough mixtures are rather ancient up there, so rarely used. We’ve got some DuroTuss, which we had for the dogs when they got kennel cough. The others have other forms of codeine-type substances in them.

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

That’s bullshit.

Well, I’ll admit the curmudgeon rating has declined just recently, but I’m sure we can improve that again if we try hard enough.

A couple of years ago, my wife bought a book titled “I’m dead, now what?”:https://www.booktopia.com.au/i-m-dead-now-what-organizer-spiral-bound-hardcover—peter-pauper-press/stationery/9781441317995.html The book has places for me to record pretty much everything she would need in the event of my untimely demise. It was a great way to put all of my thoughts and wishes in one place.

SqueezeBabe said:

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

hahahha!!! Maybe?

I mean, many years have passed and lots has happened… I was surprised my login still worked after all this time.

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

I feel that on a visceral level at the moment… I have an impending rotation around the sun, not a significant one, but only one more year to go.

mr buffy is staring down 70 very soon.

buffy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-28/tga-recalls-cancels-cough-medicines-pholcodine-ingredient/102035896

I heard about this recall on the radio in the car. I’ve just checked the cupboard. Our cough mixtures are rather ancient up there, so rarely used. We’ve got some DuroTuss, which we had for the dogs when they got kennel cough. The others have other forms of codeine-type substances in them.

Yeah, I don’t have any. The other half is a big user of DuroTruss.

buffy said:

SqueezeBabe said:

buffy said:

This place is set in stone. Nothing changes. We all just get older. And grumpier.

I feel that on a visceral level at the moment… I have an impending rotation around the sun, not a significant one, but only one more year to go.

mr buffy is staring down 70 very soon.

Me too. Two and a half months left of 69.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

sm…is tonight your GP’s Hard Quiz night?

yep! ta. excellent reminding.

I’ll put that in my notebook.

Speaking of doktars and nurses. I got my fifth jab today and my first JEV shot. Live virus.

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

roughbarked said:

A couple of years ago, my wife bought a book titled “I’m dead, now what?”:https://www.booktopia.com.au/i-m-dead-now-what-organizer-spiral-bound-hardcover—peter-pauper-press/stationery/9781441317995.html The book has places for me to record pretty much everything she would need in the event of my untimely demise. It was a great way to put all of my thoughts and wishes in one place.

Hmmm. Link

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

yep! ta. excellent reminding.

I’ll put that in my notebook.

Speaking of doktars and nurses. I got my fifth jab today and my first JEV shot. Live virus.

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

None yet. I was jabbed at 12:30.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I’ll put that in my notebook.

Speaking of doktars and nurses. I got my fifth jab today and my first JEV shot. Live virus.

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

None yet. I was jabbed at 12:30.

But then, I had nil reaction to any of the jabs apart from a slight dizziness on the third one. Only lasted a coupe of minutes.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

None yet. I was jabbed at 12:30.

But then, I had nil reaction to any of the jabs apart from a slight dizziness on the third one. Only lasted a coupe of minutes.

The third one was the MRNA one.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

None yet. I was jabbed at 12:30.

But then, I had nil reaction to any of the jabs apart from a slight dizziness on the third one. Only lasted a coupe of minutes.

The third one was the MRNA one.

I called the MRNA once. When the car broke down.

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

Squeeze you later.

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

roughbarked said:

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

Squeeze you later.

A myotherapist is exactly what I need.

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

Myotherapy expands beyond massage, using a wide range of treatments to aid muscle and joint recovery. It also incorporates a deeper understanding of the human …

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

muscle and joint pain

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

That should be OK.

:-)

Fox faces an ‘existential threat’ from its multibillion-dollar defamation cases

Jumps around with joy.

:) :) :)

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

sarahs mum said:

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

Planning Matters Tasmania
The Tasmanian Government is working to remove councils as a Planning Authority via the Local Government Review process.
The Local Government Review Board is proposing referring “complex planning development applications to ‘independent’ assessment panels appointed by the Tasmanian Government”.
If these changes are brought in developers would be given power to circumvent democratically elected Local Government and planning approval processes, and the voice and appeal rights of local communities such as Resident’s Opposed to the Cable Car and Respect the Mountain would be lost.

sarahs mum said:

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

The irony of beautiful mostly pristine places turned into tourist destinations or otherwise exploited

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

It’s not covered by AHPRA.

Tau.Neutrino said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

muscle and joint pain

Ah, yes. Should have got that. Myocardial, heart muscle, all that.

sarahs mum said:

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

SqueezeBabe said:

Well, nice popping in. Alas I have to go back to torturing people for a living (I’m a myotherapist now).

But I’ll try to pop in a bit more often… if you’ll have me around of course. :)

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

Myotherapy expands beyond massage, using a wide range of treatments to aid muscle and joint recovery. It also incorporates a deeper understanding of the human …

Which human?

Ian said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

Myotherapy expands beyond massage, using a wide range of treatments to aid muscle and joint recovery. It also incorporates a deeper understanding of the human …

Which human?

‘Small step for man, giant leap for mankind’, that sort of concept.

Idk why but I always get a bit melancholy seeing faded celebrities in ads for shitty mobile games.

sarahs mum said:

“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”It’s quite likely that

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”It’s quite likely that

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”It’s quite likely that

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

The Dutch knew how to avoid cable cars.

Got rid of all of their hills.

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”It’s quite likely that

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

+1

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sarahs mum said:

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

I went on this one at Katoomba a few weeks ago. Very impressive views from 250m above the treetops. Good reasons for it environmentally speaking and other..

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

+1

truth is canals would probably not be the go. where they are feasible they would probably be environmentally unsound.

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”It’s quite likely that

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

Yeah. Between the mountain peaks.

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

I went on this one at Katoomba a few weeks ago. Very impressive views from 250m above the treetops. Good reasons for it environmentally speaking and other..

It’s a diffent thing altogether. The cable car design at present mooted passes mountain top that is the view for hundreds of thousands into private hands. It goes over the organ pipes-the most iconic bit of the mountain. It drills pillars into the organ pipes. It increases traffic flow through south hobart where there is already bottlenecks. and there is already a road to where it goes.

sarahs mum said:

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

I went on this one at Katoomba a few weeks ago. Very impressive views from 250m above the treetops. Good reasons for it environmentally speaking and other..

It’s a diffent thing altogether. The cable car design at present mooted passes mountain top that is the view for hundreds of thousands into private hands. It goes over the organ pipes-the most iconic bit of the mountain. It drills pillars into the organ pipes. It increases traffic flow through south hobart where there is already bottlenecks. and there is already a road to where it goes.

Well that’s ok then.

Can we widen the road and straighten it out?

transition said:

my reading, various related

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cingulate_cortex

“..In the human brain, the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) is the frontal part of the cingulate cortex that resembles a “collar” surrounding the frontal part of the corpus callosum. It consists of Brodmann areas 24, 32, and 33.

It is involved in certain higher-level functions, such as attention allocation, reward anticipation, decision-making, ethics and morality, impulse control (e.g. performance monitoring and error detection), and emotion..”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olfactory_bulb
that^, while the chips cook

I went to a work meeting once.

Tau.Neutrino said:

40 Times People Thought Of Stupid Solutions That Actually Work, As Shared On ‘Redneck Engineering’ (New Pics)

That’s awesome.

Ian said:

I went to a work meeting once.

I went to an office Xmas party once.

That was quite traumatic, too. Never went to another one.

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

Ian said:

I went on this one at Katoomba a few weeks ago. Very impressive views from 250m above the treetops. Good reasons for it environmentally speaking and other..

It’s a diffent thing altogether. The cable car design at present mooted passes mountain top that is the view for hundreds of thousands into private hands. It goes over the organ pipes-the most iconic bit of the mountain. It drills pillars into the organ pipes. It increases traffic flow through south hobart where there is already bottlenecks. and there is already a road to where it goes.

Well that’s ok then.

Can we widen the road and straighten it out?

it is a mountain road. built during the depression thus adding to its iconic people’s mountain thing. it is the rock garden in Hobart’s backyard. There is a series of gates. If snowfall makes the road dangerous it might get closed off. all the way down to the springs. But there are some 4wd commerical services that go up the mountain at these times. When snow storm passes the council plough the road and open the mountain again.

these services are provided by Hobart city council. I used to think that being in council hands was better than being a nat park. At least you don’t have to pay to go up the mountain.

nowadays I am wondering if it needs to be a nat park to protect it from orcs.

Ian said:

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

please do drop in. If only to explain to me what ‘myotherapy’ is.

Myotherapy expands beyond massage, using a wide range of treatments to aid muscle and joint recovery. It also incorporates a deeper understanding of the human …

Which human?

Dunno.. didn’t read the link.

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”It’s quite likely that

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

Hopefully soon.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

It’s almost certain that there’s an awful lot of gold bars with Nazi eagles stamped on them still under the pavements of Zurich, too, but i would hesitate to suggest that Australian banks should adopt similar practices.

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

The Dutch knew how to avoid cable cars.

Got rid of all of their hills.

Cleverness. They should have called the place netherhills.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

couldn’t we have marijuana cafes and canals like amsterdam instead?

+1

truth is canals would probably not be the go. where they are feasible they would probably be environmentally unsound.

Father in law went to Amsterdam and reckoned the only beauty of the place was that it got washed out twice a day.

sarahs mum said:

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s a diffent thing altogether. The cable car design at present mooted passes mountain top that is the view for hundreds of thousands into private hands. It goes over the organ pipes-the most iconic bit of the mountain. It drills pillars into the organ pipes. It increases traffic flow through south hobart where there is already bottlenecks. and there is already a road to where it goes.

Well that’s ok then.

Can we widen the road and straighten it out?

it is a mountain road. built during the depression thus adding to its iconic people’s mountain thing. it is the rock garden in Hobart’s backyard. There is a series of gates. If snowfall makes the road dangerous it might get closed off. all the way down to the springs. But there are some 4wd commerical services that go up the mountain at these times. When snow storm passes the council plough the road and open the mountain again.

these services are provided by Hobart city council. I used to think that being in council hands was better than being a nat park. At least you don’t have to pay to go up the mountain.

nowadays I am wondering if it needs to be a nat park to protect it from orcs.

The latter also need to get revenue to help pay for it.

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

I went to a work meeting once.

I went to an office Xmas party once.

That was quite traumatic, too. Never went to another one.

Same here

Ian said:

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

I went to a work meeting once.

I went to an office Xmas party once.

That was quite traumatic, too. Never went to another one.

Same here

Gave up all that shit years ago.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

+1

truth is canals would probably not be the go. where they are feasible they would probably be environmentally unsound.

Father in law went to Amsterdam and reckoned the only beauty of the place was that it got washed out twice a day.

architecture seems pretty spekky. sister has been a few times and she likes. hasn’t been to a cafe though.

sarahs mum said:

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

It’s a diffent thing altogether. The cable car design at present mooted passes mountain top that is the view for hundreds of thousands into private hands. It goes over the organ pipes-the most iconic bit of the mountain. It drills pillars into the organ pipes. It increases traffic flow through south hobart where there is already bottlenecks. and there is already a road to where it goes.

Well that’s ok then.

Can we widen the road and straighten it out?

it is a mountain road. built during the depression thus adding to its iconic people’s mountain thing. it is the rock garden in Hobart’s backyard. There is a series of gates. If snowfall makes the road dangerous it might get closed off. all the way down to the springs. But there are some 4wd commerical services that go up the mountain at these times. When snow storm passes the council plough the road and open the mountain again.

these services are provided by Hobart city council. I used to think that being in council hands was better than being a nat park. At least you don’t have to pay to go up the mountain.

nowadays I am wondering if it needs to be a nat park to protect it from orcs.

Be safer with a cableway then.

runs away

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

Ian said:

Well that’s ok then.

Can we widen the road and straighten it out?

it is a mountain road. built during the depression thus adding to its iconic people’s mountain thing. it is the rock garden in Hobart’s backyard. There is a series of gates. If snowfall makes the road dangerous it might get closed off. all the way down to the springs. But there are some 4wd commerical services that go up the mountain at these times. When snow storm passes the council plough the road and open the mountain again.

these services are provided by Hobart city council. I used to think that being in council hands was better than being a nat park. At least you don’t have to pay to go up the mountain.

nowadays I am wondering if it needs to be a nat park to protect it from orcs.

The latter also need to get revenue to help pay for it.

presently revenue comes out of council parks-rates.

captain_spalding said:

Ian said:

I went to a work meeting once.

I went to an office Xmas party once.

That was quite traumatic, too. Never went to another one.

Same here, I was never invited again.

facebook tells me it is two years since Cobbett and I got the monster.

sarahs mum said:

facebook tells me it is two years since Cobbett and I got the monster.

Happy anniversary.

roughbarked said:

Ian said:

captain_spalding said:

I went to an office Xmas party once.

That was quite traumatic, too. Never went to another one.

Same here

Gave up all that shit years ago.

Yeah I never go, usually the only who doesn’t

sarahs mum said:

facebook tells me it is two years since Cobbett and I got the monster.

:)

Surely she’s better behaved these days.

sarahs mum said:

Ian said:

sarahs mum said:

“There is no doubt that cableways continue to be installed in iconic locations around the globe where sensitive environmental conditions exist,” Mr Rockliff said.
“Switzerland, for example, is consistently ranked as one of the greenest and most environmentally sustainable places and has the highest concentration of point-of-interest cableways. We must move in this direction.”

Oh god. must we?

I went on this one at Katoomba a few weeks ago. Very impressive views from 250m above the treetops. Good reasons for it environmentally speaking and other..

It’s a diffent thing altogether. The cable car design at present mooted passes mountain top that is the view for hundreds of thousands into private hands. It goes over the organ pipes-the most iconic bit of the mountain. It drills pillars into the organ pipes. It increases traffic flow through south hobart where there is already bottlenecks. and there is already a road to where it goes.

…and hardly any of the locals want it.

I may be roughbarked but that doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate the smooth.

Ah, there you are. My computer stopped talking to the home network. Then when I turned it off and on again it took Firefox updates.

Food report: I am pan frying salmon fillets to eat with my home made coleslaw. I also bought flathead tails because the butcher had just received a fish delivery. I think I’ll steam them tomorrow with ginger, and serve with light soy sauce.

Pleasant afternoon out there so I’m going for a stroll to the Bottle Oh.

PWM, the crab-potato-corn chowder turned out to be absolutely delicious. I’ve been told to do it again whenever we score a crab.

Michael V said:

PWM, the crab-potato-corn chowder turned out to be absolutely delicious. I’ve been told to do it again whenever we score a crab.

Excellent.
The lady who ran the canteen at the shipyard I worked at in the states used to do good chowders.
There would have been plenty of crabs around because it was bayou country.
The canteen was pretty rough but the food was good and plentiful.

Got the recipe?

roughbarked said:

how to tell the time on the moon?

I believe they left a Bulova accutron on the first landing on the moon. I’ve always wondered what happened to it.

What time would it be showing?

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

PWM, the crab-potato-corn chowder turned out to be absolutely delicious. I’ve been told to do it again whenever we score a crab.

Excellent.
The lady who ran the canteen at the shipyard I worked at in the states used to do good chowders.
There would have been plenty of crabs around because it was bayou country.
The canteen was pretty rough but the food was good and plentiful.

Got the recipe?

Look, I combined several internet recipes, which I will write up soon so I don’t forget it. When it’s written up, I’ll post it in the recipe thread.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

PWM, the crab-potato-corn chowder turned out to be absolutely delicious. I’ve been told to do it again whenever we score a crab.

Excellent.
The lady who ran the canteen at the shipyard I worked at in the states used to do good chowders.
There would have been plenty of crabs around because it was bayou country.
The canteen was pretty rough but the food was good and plentiful.

Got the recipe?

Look, I combined several internet recipes, which I will write up soon so I don’t forget it. When it’s written up, I’ll post it in the recipe thread.

Good good.

And here is today’s tribal critter. This is labelled as Poecilometis australasiae, awaiting confirmation of ID. (It’s a stink bug)

buffy said:

And here is today’s tribal critter. This is labelled as Poecilometis australasiae, awaiting confirmation of ID. (It’s a stink bug)

There’s lots of species of these stinky but interesting bugs.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

And here is today’s tribal critter. This is labelled as Poecilometis australasiae, awaiting confirmation of ID. (It’s a stink bug)

There’s lots of species of these stinky but interesting bugs.

There’s even good guys and bad guys.

buffy said:

And here is today’s tribal critter. This is labelled as Poecilometis australasiae, awaiting confirmation of ID. (It’s a stink bug)

Fine decorative shield.

Mr buffy predicts that, as one of the subjects on Hard Quiz tonight is Pugs, one of the answers will be “Queen Victoria”.

buffy said:

Mr buffy predicts that, as one of the subjects on Hard Quiz tonight is Pugs, one of the answers will be “Queen Victoria”.

Takes notes.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

yep! ta. excellent reminding.

I’ll put that in my notebook.

Speaking of doktars and nurses. I got my fifth jab today and my first JEV shot. Live virus.

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

I copped a mild dose of the dreaded lurgy in early November, so can’t have a 5th dose for a couple of months yet.

I’ve received conflicting advice, though: State Govt says I can have it now. The Feds say to wait for the full six months.
My GP says I should wait.

AussieDJ said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I’ll put that in my notebook.

Speaking of doktars and nurses. I got my fifth jab today and my first JEV shot. Live virus.

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

I copped a mild dose of the dreaded lurgy in early November, so can’t have a 5th dose for a couple of months yet.

I’ve received conflicting advice, though: State Govt says I can have it now. The Feds say to wait for the full six months.
My GP says I should wait.

Yes.

roughbarked said:

AussieDJ said:

buffy said:

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

I copped a mild dose of the dreaded lurgy in early November, so can’t have a 5th dose for a couple of months yet.

I’ve received conflicting advice, though: State Govt says I can have it now. The Feds say to wait for the full six months.
My GP says I should wait.

Yes.

so after we were fifthed (apparently a dvologism) we did indeed have a real whacked out day the next

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

AussieDJ said:

I copped a mild dose of the dreaded lurgy in early November, so can’t have a 5th dose for a couple of months yet.

I’ve received conflicting advice, though: State Govt says I can have it now. The Feds say to wait for the full six months.
My GP says I should wait.

Yes.

so after we were fifthed (apparently a dvologism) we did indeed have a real whacked out day the next

I’ll inform you of how I jump out of bed at some ungodly hour.

ACT court precinct
Migrants paid suspected smugglers nearly $12,500 to board ‘voyage of death’
At least 65 people, including 14 minors, died when their overcrowded wooden boat slammed into shoals 100 meters off the coast of Calabria and broke apart early in rough seas on a trip from Türkiye to Italy.

Link

We agree

roughbarked said:

ACT court precinct
Migrants paid suspected smugglers nearly $12,500 to board ‘voyage of death’
At least 65 people, including 14 minors, died when their overcrowded wooden boat slammed into shoals 100 meters off the coast of Calabria and broke apart early in rough seas on a trip from Türkiye to Italy.

Link

We agree to turn our face away

Took the brackets out so you can see what was hidden

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

facebook tells me it is two years since Cobbett and I got the monster.

:)

Surely she’s better behaved these days.

She’s much much better. she’s still her own dog and will choose when she wants to be willing and cute. She’s quite affectionate and loves the neighbours. but if you tell her to get off the couch she will just look at you with an ‘ i don’t want to’ attitude.Recalls on a percentage basis. .

Frida Kahlo. Nice

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountains_of_Kong

The Mountains of Kong are a legendary mountain range charted on maps of Africa from 1798 through to the late 1880s. The mountains were once thought to begin in West Africa near the highland source of the Niger River close to Tembakounda in Guinea, then continue east to the equally legendary Central African Mountains of the Moon, thought to be where the White Nile had its source. None of these mountains actually exis

AussieDJ said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I’ll put that in my notebook.

Speaking of doktars and nurses. I got my fifth jab today and my first JEV shot. Live virus.

Ah yes. I had a question about 5th jabs. A friend had it Tuesday last week. He was absolutely flattened the next day and slept most of the day. His arm came up hotspot a couple of days later. He seems fine now. Have any of you lot who have 5th jabbed had a reaction?

I copped a mild dose of the dreaded lurgy in early November, so can’t have a 5th dose for a couple of months yet.

I’ve received conflicting advice, though: State Govt says I can have it now. The Feds say to wait for the full six months.
My GP says I should wait.

I had the fifth booster last Monday, very little at all in the way of any side FX. It was another Pfizer (third in a row) and much less bothersome than the other two (which were only short-lived cold symptoms).

But apparently these reactions can differ markedly from individual to individual.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

facebook tells me it is two years since Cobbett and I got the monster.

:)

Surely she’s better behaved these days.

She’s much much better. she’s still her own dog and will choose when she wants to be willing and cute. She’s quite affectionate and loves the neighbours. but if you tell her to get off the couch she will just look at you with an ‘ i don’t want to’ attitude.Recalls on a percentage basis. .

Do you get the impression that Cobbett likes her now?

dv said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountains_of_Kong

The Mountains of Kong are a legendary mountain range charted on maps of Africa from 1798 through to the late 1880s. The mountains were once thought to begin in West Africa near the highland source of the Niger River close to Tembakounda in Guinea, then continue east to the equally legendary Central African Mountains of the Moon, thought to be where the White Nile had its source. None of these mountains actually exis

Named after the brothers King and Hong.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

:)

Surely she’s better behaved these days.

She’s much much better. she’s still her own dog and will choose when she wants to be willing and cute. She’s quite affectionate and loves the neighbours. but if you tell her to get off the couch she will just look at you with an ‘ i don’t want to’ attitude.Recalls on a percentage basis. .

Do you get the impression that Cobbett likes her now?

Yeah. But he still doesn’t understand why he can’t be an only dog and get all the stuff and cuddles. Paisley interrupts all cuddles. it’s all about Paisley.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

She’s much much better. she’s still her own dog and will choose when she wants to be willing and cute. She’s quite affectionate and loves the neighbours. but if you tell her to get off the couch she will just look at you with an ‘ i don’t want to’ attitude.Recalls on a percentage basis. .

Do you get the impression that Cobbett likes her now?

Yeah. But he still doesn’t understand why he can’t be an only dog and get all the stuff and cuddles. Paisley interrupts all cuddles. it’s all about Paisley.

Heh :)

dv said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountains_of_Kong

The Mountains of Kong are a legendary mountain range charted on maps of Africa from 1798 through to the late 1880s. The mountains were once thought to begin in West Africa near the highland source of the Niger River close to Tembakounda in Guinea, then continue east to the equally legendary Central African Mountains of the Moon, thought to be where the White Nile had its source. None of these mountains actually exis

Giggle.

I’ve come across totally fictitious, highly detailed geological maps produced for various companies. Everything on these maps was a lie. But it looked good. Looked like the geo had done an amazing job. But all was bullshit.

She won hard quiz!

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Geez and I forgot to watch it.

dv said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountains_of_Kong

The Mountains of Kong are a legendary mountain range charted on maps of Africa from 1798 through to the late 1880s. The mountains were once thought to begin in West Africa near the highland source of the Niger River close to Tembakounda in Guinea, then continue east to the equally legendary Central African Mountains of the Moon, thought to be where the White Nile had its source. None of these mountains actually exis

The QI question on this topic was rather amusing.

But I can’t find the clip on YouTube right now. It is part of the M series.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Geez and I forgot to watch it.

watch the replay tomorrow night. :)
—-

>>Dear Roslyn,

We’ve refunded you $1.47.

We’re building a simpler, better bank and are committed to taking actions to serve you better – this includes putting things right when we get it wrong.

An Obair or Nobber as it is called, is a small post town in the north of Co Meath. The word Nobber is an English pronunciation of An Obair meaning “The Work”. It is a very historical place. In olden times Nobber village was much larger than it is now. It was also a very important. After the Union in 1800 the people of Nobber were represented by a member of Parliament of their own. There was a tanary in the centre of the town. The remains of old machinery were found when the builders were building the local hall.

An Obair – Village

ms spock said:

An Obair or Nobber as it is called, is a small post town in the north of Co Meath. The word Nobber is an English pronunciation of An Obair meaning “The Work”. It is a very historical place. In olden times Nobber village was much larger than it is now. It was also a very important. After the Union in 1800 the people of Nobber were represented by a member of Parliament of their own. There was a tanary in the centre of the town. The remains of old machinery were found when the builders were building the local hall.

An Obair – Village

Am Obairy busy mon.

One of Australia’s biggest banks investigates after customers’ personal data is discovered “floating down the street” after being dumped in a skip.
ANZ bank apologises

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Geez and I forgot to watch it.

watch the replay tomorrow night. :)
—-

>>Dear Roslyn,

We’ve refunded you $1.47.

We’re building a simpler, better bank and are committed to taking actions to serve you better – this includes putting things right when we get it wrong.

don’t spend it all at once now…

sarahs mum said:

Frida Kahlo. Nice

I like that top she made.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Geez and I forgot to watch it.

iView is your friend.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Geez and I forgot to watch it.

iView is your friend.

:) that it is.

roughbarked said:

ms spock said:

An Obair or Nobber as it is called, is a small post town in the north of Co Meath. The word Nobber is an English pronunciation of An Obair meaning “The Work”. It is a very historical place. In olden times Nobber village was much larger than it is now. It was also a very important. After the Union in 1800 the people of Nobber were represented by a member of Parliament of their own. There was a tanary in the centre of the town. The remains of old machinery were found when the builders were building the local hall.

An Obair – Village

Am Obairy busy mon.

:)

Coles order filed, to be delivered between 3pm and 9pm tomorrow.

Bubblecar said:

Coles order filed, to be delivered between 3pm and 9pm tomorrow.

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Coles order filed, to be delivered between 3pm and 9pm tomorrow.

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Coles order filed, to be delivered between 3pm and 9pm tomorrow.

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

It’s a great convenience, but I do wonder how the local IGA is coping. Coles only started delivering to this village last year.

Now I seem to see a little Coles truck unloading in this street every second day or so.

buffy said:

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Coles order filed, to be delivered between 3pm and 9pm tomorrow.

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

Fair enough but I have no motor transport. I also like the much larger range of items available at Coles compared with our little IGA.

William Walton viola concerto now on Classic FM. A fine and evocative work.

buffy said:

Brindabellas said:

Bubblecar said:

Coles order filed, to be delivered between 3pm and 9pm tomorrow.

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

these days I order online for a pickup. i do order onions and potaotes. And when I pick I wander past the deli and then pick through the veg. last week tomatoes were on special and so I ordered a kilo and surprisingly they were really good quality. slightly underripe which is how I like them.

My potted cherry tomatoes look like they will yield soon.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Brindabellas said:

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

these days I order online for a pickup. i do order onions and potaotes. And when I pick I wander past the deli and then pick through the veg. last week tomatoes were on special and so I ordered a kilo and surprisingly they were really good quality. slightly underripe which is how I like them.

My potted cherry tomatoes look like they will yield soon.

Ross sister is expecting thousands of cherry toms soon.

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Brindabellas said:

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

Fair enough but I have no motor transport. I also like the much larger range of items available at Coles compared with our little IGA.

What are the use-bys like on the delivered stuff? Do you have to watch it in case what you get only has a couple of days on it? I’ve watched the people in the shop filling the order boxes and they take from the front of the shelf. The newest stuff is stacked to the back of the shelf.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Brindabellas said:

just done mine – delivered on Friday between 8am and 10am

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

these days I order online for a pickup. i do order onions and potaotes. And when I pick I wander past the deli and then pick through the veg. last week tomatoes were on special and so I ordered a kilo and surprisingly they were really good quality. slightly underripe which is how I like them.

My potted cherry tomatoes look like they will yield soon.

I’ve had half a dozen black berries so far. I’m reconciled to tomatoes being an Autumn fruit here. I don’t think it will be a big harvest this year, but they are getting closer to picking.

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

these days I order online for a pickup. i do order onions and potaotes. And when I pick I wander past the deli and then pick through the veg. last week tomatoes were on special and so I ordered a kilo and surprisingly they were really good quality. slightly underripe which is how I like them.

My potted cherry tomatoes look like they will yield soon.

I’ve had half a dozen black berries so far. I’m reconciled to tomatoes being an Autumn fruit here. I don’t think it will be a big harvest this year, but they are getting closer to picking.

also an autumn fruit in Tassie. When i had a tunnel house i pulled off tomatoes by christmas a few times.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

Fair enough but I have no motor transport. I also like the much larger range of items available at Coles compared with our little IGA.

What are the use-bys like on the delivered stuff? Do you have to watch it in case what you get only has a couple of days on it? I’ve watched the people in the shop filling the order boxes and they take from the front of the shelf. The newest stuff is stacked to the back of the shelf.

Don’t usually have problems with use-by dates. Sometimes the veg is bigger and coarser than I’d choose myself.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

I went to the actual supermarkets today. As I do each Wednesday (excepting when something else is happening on a Wednesday). I do not like other people picking out my fruit and veg. And if I’m going for that, I do the rest at the same time. That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby. Ditto for other goods.

Fair enough but I have no motor transport. I also like the much larger range of items available at Coles compared with our little IGA.

What are the use-bys like on the delivered stuff? Do you have to watch it in case what you get only has a couple of days on it? I’ve watched the people in the shop filling the order boxes and they take from the front of the shelf. The newest stuff is stacked to the back of the shelf.

They are normally okay – but I have had to email them a couple of times when they are at or near useby date – and get a credit.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

these days I order online for a pickup. i do order onions and potaotes. And when I pick I wander past the deli and then pick through the veg. last week tomatoes were on special and so I ordered a kilo and surprisingly they were really good quality. slightly underripe which is how I like them.

My potted cherry tomatoes look like they will yield soon.

I’ve had half a dozen black berries so far. I’m reconciled to tomatoes being an Autumn fruit here. I don’t think it will be a big harvest this year, but they are getting closer to picking.

also an autumn fruit in Tassie. When i had a tunnel house i pulled off tomatoes by christmas a few times.

Sorry, I must be tired. That was half a dozen Brown Berry tomatoes.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

these days I order online for a pickup. i do order onions and potaotes. And when I pick I wander past the deli and then pick through the veg. last week tomatoes were on special and so I ordered a kilo and surprisingly they were really good quality. slightly underripe which is how I like them.

My potted cherry tomatoes look like they will yield soon.

I’ve had half a dozen black berries so far. I’m reconciled to tomatoes being an Autumn fruit here. I don’t think it will be a big harvest this year, but they are getting closer to picking.

also an autumn fruit in Tassie. When i had a tunnel house i pulled off tomatoes by christmas a few times.

By Christmas? We used to have competitions to see who could get them by show day. This being withing the first three days of October.

roughbarked said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

I’ve had half a dozen black berries so far. I’m reconciled to tomatoes being an Autumn fruit here. I don’t think it will be a big harvest this year, but they are getting closer to picking.

also an autumn fruit in Tassie. When i had a tunnel house i pulled off tomatoes by christmas a few times.

By Christmas? We used to have competitions to see who could get them by show day. This being withing the first three days of October.

I am up a mountain with a south west vantage in Tasmania.

I remember in sydney I would start tomatoes by raking in the seed in the first week of august. that would not work here in october.

OnThisDay 1 March 1938, Fred Loudon’s motorcycle shop with Francis-Barnett motorcycles,pictured on the corner of Elizabeth and Goulburn Streets Sydney.

sarahs mum said:

OnThisDay 1 March 1938, Fred Loudon’s motorcycle shop with Francis-Barnett motorcycles,pictured on the corner of Elizabeth and Goulburn Streets Sydney.

Some lowboys there

sarahs mum said:

OnThisDay 1 March 1938, Fred Loudon’s motorcycle shop with Francis-Barnett motorcycles,pictured on the corner of Elizabeth and Goulburn Streets Sydney.

1 March 1938, salesman demonstrating a Francis-Barnett motorcycle. Taken for Mr Fred Loudon’s shop. Site of the Goulburn Street Parking Station. Note the tram signal box, the Peters Ice Cream van and the building which later became the Southern Cross Hotel.

sarahs mum said:

OnThisDay 1 March 1938, Fred Loudon’s motorcycle shop with Francis-Barnett motorcycles,pictured on the corner of Elizabeth and Goulburn Streets Sydney.

Ta. Three folders that could have gone in but I chose Nostalgia/Australia/Sydney.

buffy said:

That way I can ensure I get dairy stuff that is freshest on the shelf and not on a short useby.

There’s a reasonable-sized ethnic group in my local community.
The local large-chain supermarket placed products that the community would be likely to be looking for into one section of the store.

I sprung them putting short useby products into that section of the store while down the other end of the aisle, and out of that section, were the identical products with much longer useby dates. Oh, and the prices were the same for both lots of product – no reduction for being close to best before or useby dates.

I called their attention to it and suggested their practices were discriminatory. I don’t think they understood what I was on about. I haven’t checked lately to see what, if anything, has changed.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

OnThisDay 1 March 1938, Fred Loudon’s motorcycle shop with Francis-Barnett motorcycles,pictured on the corner of Elizabeth and Goulburn Streets Sydney.

1 March 1938, salesman demonstrating a Francis-Barnett motorcycle. Taken for Mr Fred Loudon’s shop. Site of the Goulburn Street Parking Station. Note the tram signal box, the Peters Ice Cream van and the building which later became the Southern Cross Hotel.

#OnThisDay 1 March 1957, Metropolitan Security Service employees pictured on duty with their Triumph motorcycles in Artarmon, Sydney.

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

sarahs mum said:

OnThisDay 1 March 1938, Fred Loudon’s motorcycle shop with Francis-Barnett motorcycles,pictured on the corner of Elizabeth and Goulburn Streets Sydney.

1 March 1938, salesman demonstrating a Francis-Barnett motorcycle. Taken for Mr Fred Loudon’s shop. Site of the Goulburn Street Parking Station. Note the tram signal box, the Peters Ice Cream van and the building which later became the Southern Cross Hotel.

#OnThisDay 1 March 1957, Metropolitan Security Service employees pictured on duty with their Triumph motorcycles in Artarmon, Sydney.

Private security firm of the time I assume, quite rare snaps.

Ancient medieval texts suggest a sea monster in Norse sagas called Hafgufa was a trap-feeding whale
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/ancient-texts-norse-saga-hafgufa-whale-trap-feeding/102027600

sarahs mum said:

Ancient medieval texts suggest a sea monster in Norse sagas called Hafgufa was a trap-feeding whale
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/ancient-texts-norse-saga-hafgufa-whale-trap-feeding/102027600

That is utterly amazing.

sarahs mum said:

Ancient medieval texts suggest a sea monster in Norse sagas called Hafgufa was a trap-feeding whale
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-03-01/ancient-texts-norse-saga-hafgufa-whale-trap-feeding/102027600

Seems they’re able to learn and regain new skills over many generations.

The Legalise Cannabis MPs lobbying for change in Victoria | 7.30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8J9TC6uHWM

I have until 1am to modify my Coles order.

Currently deliberating: should I add some picked herrings?

Bubblecar said:

I have until 1am to modify my Coles order.

Currently deliberating: should I add some picked herrings?

picked = pickled, as I am slightly right now.

Bubblecar said:

I have until 1am to modify my Coles order.

Currently deliberating: should I add some picked herrings?

It’s not like they’ll go off if you don’t eat them.

Bubblecar said:

I have until 1am to modify my Coles order.

Currently deliberating: should I add some picked herrings?

na. not worth the hassle.’

Nags Head
Inside one of London’s Best Pubs, the Nags Head, Knightsbridge 53 Kinnerton St, London
Today’s neighborhood London pubs are yesterday’s dive bars for the poor and working class, also true for The Nags Head, where stable hands drank a few waiting for the rich people in the surrounding neighborhood to require something.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I have until 1am to modify my Coles order.

Currently deliberating: should I add some picked herrings?

na. not worth the hassle.’

It’s just a few clicks here and there. And then I get a jar of pickled herrings along with the rest of it.

sarahs mum said:

Nags Head
Inside one of London’s Best Pubs, the Nags Head, Knightsbridge 53 Kinnerton St, London
Today’s neighborhood London pubs are yesterday’s dive bars for the poor and working class, also true for The Nags Head, where stable hands drank a few waiting for the rich people in the surrounding neighborhood to require something.

I imagine those pictures must be securely glued to the walls to discourage theft.

sarahs mum said:

Nags Head
Inside one of London’s Best Pubs, the Nags Head, Knightsbridge 53 Kinnerton St, London
Today’s neighborhood London pubs are yesterday’s dive bars for the poor and working class, also true for The Nags Head, where stable hands drank a few waiting for the rich people in the surrounding neighborhood to require something.

Doubtless now filled with braying City chaps and chapettes supping £8 pints.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

I have until 1am to modify my Coles order.

Currently deliberating: should I add some picked herrings?

na. not worth the hassle.’

It’s just a few clicks here and there. And then I get a jar of pickled herrings along with the rest of it.

…done & dusted.

Some facts books

Stephen Colbert Reacts To Fox News Knowingly Endorsing Trump’s Election Lies

Tau.Neutrino said:

Stephen Colbert Reacts To Fox News Knowingly Endorsing Trump’s Election Lies

LOLOL….I love Colbert’s Murdoch accent. My friend The Rocket Scientist is a hoot around Australian accents and stuff.

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Who?

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Who?

An acquaintance of SM I think.

‘Our state is at war with our family’: Clergy with trans kids fight back
They say their children’s lives and religious liberty are threatened by bills in Missouri and elsewhere

By Ariana Eunjung Cha
Updated February 28, 2023 at 2:18 p.m. EST|Published February 28, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EST

“Daddy, do you think God could make me over again as a boy?”

Rabbi Daniel Bogard had just finished reading a story to his 6-year-old twin daughters one evening in 2019 when the older one by 15 seconds asked that question. Bogard wasn’t sure what to say, so he tucked them into bed, kissed them good night and left.

“It shook me,” he recalled.

As the months passed, and the child began asking people to use “boy words” to refer to him, cropping his hair short and joining the boys’ soccer team, the change just seemed to make sense. Friends, family and schoolmates accepted him as a boy, and he flourished.

All of which had brought the family to this fateful moment three years later. As Bogard and his now 9-year-old son piled into the family minivan at dawn for one of their regular four-hour round trips to the Missouri Capitol in Jefferson City to share their story with lawmakers, the rabbi worried what might lie ahead. Bills “to protect children,” as some Republicans described their measures restricting gender-affirming health care and limiting how schools treat gender identity, have become this year’s rallying cry in this state and elsewhere.

“Our state is at war with our family,” Bogard said. “It’s not an exaggeration that we are up at night talking about when and how far we might have to flee.”

In Missouri, Senate President Pro Tem Caleb Rowden ® had promised “big stuff” regarding “the transgender issue” this session. At least 31 bills, one of the largest number in any U.S. state, have been introduced by the Republican supermajority, targeting youth participation in competitive school sports, the ability to revise gender on birth certificates, gender-affirming medical treatments and other rights of LGBTQ people. Similar bills have been introduced in at least 11 states.

The measures that frighten families like the Bogards the most would classify efforts to support children and teens seeking medical treatment to help them transition to their preferred gender as child abuse. The legislation would carry criminal penalties for providers and possibly parents, although such treatments are supported by the country’s major medical associations such as the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychological Association and the American Association of Clinical Endocrinology.

Mississippi last week became the fifth state after Alabama, Utah, South Dakota and Arkansas to pass legislation restricting minors seeking gender-affirming care. Governors in Utah and South Dakota have signed the measures into law. In Florida, the state’s board of medicine has imposed similar limits.

The bills come at a time when gender identity in the United States is at a cultural inflection point. While the percentage of teens and young adults identifying as transgender remains minuscule, it has more than doubled from one generation to the next. Whereas 0.5 percent of all adults said in a 2017-2020 survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that they were transgender, 1.4 percent of 13-to-17-year-olds and 1.3 percent of those 18-to-24 identified themselves that way in the survey.

While the trend has been celebrated by those who see it as a reflection of social acceptance, there are deep divisions over the issue of gender identity, especially along religious and political lines.

On their recent trip to the state Capitol, the Bogards joined the families of two other faith leaders also intent on stopping measures they say would wreak havoc on their children’s lives. Despite being from different religious traditions — two are Jewish, and one is Christian — the leaders had become fast friends years ago while doing community service work. All had been in their 30s, idealistic and, as the years passed, had something else in common: Each ended up having a child who felt like they had been born the wrong gender.

Rori Picker Neiss, 37, an Orthodox Jewish rabbi, has a child who came out as a boy at 7, while still wearing dresses, taking ballet and sporting super-long hair — to the “total shock” of Picker Neiss.

Jennifer Harris Dault, 40, is a pastor at a Mennonite church. Her child had gravitated toward pink and purple, sparkly animal toys and other stereotypically girly things for years before telling her family at 5 that she is a girl. (The names of the children are being withheld to protect their privacy.)

The three faith leaders say religious liberty is at the core of the debate over transgender rights.

“It’s the imposition of one religious group’s gender norms on the rest of us. It’s theocracy and fascism,” said Bogard, 39.

Picker Neiss said her faith “doesn’t have simple answers to any of these questions,” adding, “But I don’t think God lives in binary. I think everything in our world has so much room for complexity and multiplicity.”

Harris Dault said her congregation has also been loving and supportive toward her child, but other “people claim their Christian faith is behind a lot of these bills, and that’s been hard to grapple with.”

The house his grandfather built

When Bogard’s child first brought up the idea of being a boy, he had gone to find his wife, Karen, also a rabbi at Central Reform Congregation in St. Louis, and they stayed up all night talking.

He wondered if his child’s feelings would pass. Karen Bogard, 39, thought she had seen clues, recalling how their middle child was always swiping his older brother’s clothing to wear in place of dresses and had been teased at camp the previous summer for wearing a boy’s bathing trunks and top.

An activist in the LGBTQ community whom Daniel Bogard confided in was the first to bring up the idea they had a “trans kid.” Bogard remembers being taken aback and stopping them, “Oh, don’t use labels.” But as weeks and then months went by, it became clear it was not a phase.

Their daughter kept asking for a boy’s haircut. Bogard and his wife hesitated and went through several, successively shorter iterations — first to the shoulders, then to the ears, and higher. “You could see us processing our internalized transphobia,” he said.

Finally, on March 13, 2020, Bogard’s child told his teacher that he was a boy and that he had picked a new name. The transition, it turned out, was almost a nonevent. Bogard recalled, “The school was like, ‘Great, change his name on the form. Just making sure this is the same human being?’ And that was that.”

Bogard talks with his son, who is transgender, about a bill that limits what can be said in public schools about LGBTQ issues.

Their synagogue, part of the Reform movement, also embraced the child as a boy. The largest Jewish denomination in the United States, Reform congregations have welcomed LGBTQ members for decades. In 2015, its Religious Action Center released a trans inclusion guide, and last week its rabbis vowed to play a leading role against anti-transgender bills. “It is our holy obligation to nurture and nourish each sacred human being, in all our diverse expressions and experiences of gender,” the Central Conference of American Rabbis said in a resolution.

In supporting their view that God intended there to be only two genders, some Christian groups have focused on the biblical story of how God created a man and a woman in his own image. But Bogard said the same text has been interpreted by some Jewish scholars as showing how we started out as having an amorphous gender and then were split apart — an analysis they say affirms all types of gender identities.

As a student of theology, Bogard remembered finding references to nonbinary people in the Talmud and classical Jewish law going back thousands of years, such as a trans man born female who was taught to lead prayers, marries a woman and is described as an upstanding member of the community.

“There’s this idea that being trans is something new, but it goes back all the way to the very beginning,” he said.

A local rabbi knitted the Bogards’ son a yarmulke, a skull cap worn by Jewish men, in the light blue, pink and white colors of the transgender pride flag, and a few families asked some questions about pronouns. But his son’s friends remained his friends. And he still had the same outgoing personality and loves all things sports. These days, he plays on the boys’ basketball and soccer teams and is starting baseball in the spring. He is also into chess, ceramics and 3D modeling software; teaching himself the ukulele; and talks about becoming a space scientist.

“Being trans is just about the least interesting thing about him,” Bogard likes to say.

His twin sister initially had a harder time accepting the change. She expressed sadness she might not have anyone to play dolls with anymore — until her dad pointed out that her brother had never played dolls with her. These days, she said, she feels lucky to have had a sister but is used to her twin being a boy.

“Trans people are regular people, but they just want to change a little bit,” she said.

Her twin brother, meanwhile, has matured enough to worry about how his life might change if new laws force children like him to play on sports teams according to their sex at birth.

“I would quit sports if I had to play on a girls’ team,” he said in an interview. “It’s not because I don’t like girls. I don’t want to play on a girls’ team because I’m a boy. I want to be fair.”

Bogard talks with his daughter about what it was like when her twin sister became her brother.

The Bogards’ son is still too young to be thinking about adolescence, but it’s something that his parents agonize about.

Many trans teens and adults have described the special pain of those years, of waking up each day feeling like their body is changing all of a sudden into the wrong gender, and the swirl of confusion, sadness and horror they felt. Gender-affirming care, such as hormone therapy, can delay puberty to give kids time to decide on the best treatment for them, or to help them develop masculine or feminine physical characteristics.

“We don’t know the future of what care looks like for him, but these are decisions that should be made by families and doctors,” Karen Bogard said.

Daniel Bogard is unsure whether the family will stay in Missouri if one of the sports bills passes, but he said they would be compelled to leave if lawmakers limit or, worse, criminalize medical treatments for children like his son.

That pains him on several levels because it recalls his family’s history of persecution and how that had led them to Missouri.

The Bogards live in a house built by his grandfather, whose own grandfather came to the United States in the late 1800s fleeing pogroms in Eastern Europe. Bogard’s father grew up in the same room that Bogard occupied as a child and that his son is now in — the fourth generation of his family to be in the home and the sixth in Missouri.

In the attacks on trans people in the United States, Bogard sees parallels to his great-great-grandfather’s plight and that of the Jewish community preceding the Holocaust.

“These are the conversations Jewish families were having in the late ’20s and early ’30s,” he said. “We’ll be talking about who’s taking the kids to soccer practice tomorrow one minute, and then it’s what’s the plan if we have to leave?”

As the family made their way along the bumpy ride to Jefferson City this month, Bogard’s 9-year-old was playing games on a phone, his wife was in the back working, and his mother, Denise, was anxiously wondering what to expect. Denise, 68, who has Parkinson’s disease, had been isolated for most of the past three years because of the coronavirus but had insisted on tagging along to support her grandchild.

Bogard was contemplating strategy.

Over the years, he had come to believe the best — and possibly only — hope for heading off aggressive anti-trans bills is to humanize the children and their families to help lawmakers understand they are scarcely different from their own — which is why he had allowed both his sons to go with him to tell lawmakers about their lives, despite the online vitriol and even death threats they have gotten in the past.

“We want them to see the cost of what they are doing to families like ours,” Bogard said.

The Democrats had been welcoming, and more moderate Republicans had been willing to listen. But on previous trips, some lawmakers and staff members had asked the children about their genitals, unapologetically used the wrong pronouns and offered to help them if they ever felt they needed protection from their parents.

The first time Harris Dault’s daughter, now 8, went to Jefferson City last year to talk about the anti-trans bills, Harris Dault recalled, “she had a breakdown.”

“She was clearly upset, and she didn’t have names for the emotions she was feeling,” Harris Dault, 40, recalled. It took her daughter a while to say, “I’m scared.”

Like Bogard’s son, Harris Dault’s daughter had enjoyed a childhood in which her gender identity had not been much of an issue: At 2, when she still identified as a boy, she wore tutus on special occasions. She had asked for dresses to wear to preschool. A couple of days after she told her family she was a girl, she logged onto her virtual kindergarten Zoom and typed into the chat: “im a girl.” She’s now an active Girl Scout and loves to play video games such as Animal Crossing and Minecraft when her parents allow.

Picker Ness, whose son told his first-grade teacher he wanted to be treated like a boy, is also a regular presence at the state Capitol now that he is 11. She said one of her most difficult moments as the parent of a transgender child was when she had to explain the bills being introduced in the state legislature.

“My son didn’t know a world where he was discriminated against, and it was really painful to have to be the one to introduce that concept to him,” she said.

During this trip to the state Capitol, discrimination was the theme of an emotional plea from the Bogards’ eldest son, an 11-year-old who wants to be a meteorologist.

“I’m here because I have a trans brother and a trans friend,” he said in remarks that he wrote himself. “I am here because you, the Missouri government, keep trying to take away what they have a passion for … Kids just want to have fun playing sports.”

A video of the testimony on TikTok, posted by his dad, has garnered 57,000 likes and counting.

Later, the adolescent recalled that he was nervous but happy to see that the lawmakers were silent and appeared to be listening: “It made me feel like I have some power to say stuff.”

“My biggest fear is probably: Is this bill going to lead to more bills that will be worse?” he added in an interview. He then paused. “I don’t know if it’s even possible. Is it possible for a bill to say that you’re not even allowed to be transgender? Is that even possible?”

Bogard’s eldest child speaks about his fears for his brother, who is transgender.

Dueling views
In Missouri, many lawmakers promoting transgender legislation cite their Christian faith.

Like several sponsors of transgender legislation, state Rep. Justin Sparks ® lists his church in his official House biography. He introduced the Children Deserve Help Not Harm Act, which would bar health professionals from providing, and others from aiding, gender-affirming care for minors. He said that while some people “believe for moral or religious reasons, gender transition should be fully outlawed, I am not one of those people.”

Sparks said he worried some children would regret having had such treatments when they were older. He spoke of a family member who had transitioned to another gender, then changed their mind after several years and transitioned back.

“I am a man of faith and I am a Christian, and I believe the Lord gives us free will,” Sparks said. “And when you are above the age of 18, you will have free will.”

State Rep. Michael Davis ®, a 20-something from Kansas City, Mo., who used to work as a grass-roots director for a conservative advocacy group and for an elementary school after-care program, also proclaims his Christian faith. He tweeted recently that his “religious views oppose allowing transgenders to place their nonbiological sex onto their birth certificates.”

“Laws allowing the practice creates an undue burden on my faith, violating the free exercise clause,” he wrote.

Those views reflect a fault line in American attitudes about policies regarding transgender individuals that often follows religious ties. White evangelicals, in particular, more strongly favor bans on teacching about gender identity in public schools, and requiring transgender athletes compete on teams that match their sex at birth, for example, than those who are not religiously affiliated, according to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey.

With emotions running so high this session, state Sen. Greg Razer (D), the chamber’s only openly gay member, worried the fight this year is stacked against transgender children and their families. “The extremes are driving the agenda, and every year, the extremes get more extreme,” said Razer, a Missouri native who previously worked for former senator Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).

Bogard shares that view. He said he once felt hopeful that “progress was possible, and even if we weren’t winning, we would win eventually.”

“That’s not what it feels like anymore,” he said. “It feels like we’ve lost and the levers of power have been stolen.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/02/28/missouri-transgender-bills/?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

She won hard quiz!

Who?

An acquaintance of SM I think.

Ah. Likely nobody I know. Thanks.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Who?

An acquaintance of SM I think.

Ah. Likely nobody I know. Thanks.

sm’s GP.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

An acquaintance of SM I think.

Ah. Likely nobody I know. Thanks.

sm’s GP.

What was their topic?

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 12 degrees, overcast and still. We are forecast a cloudy 20 degrees.

After I finish my morning sneezing fit I’ll have a couple of weetbix for breakfast. I should feed the dogs too, I suppose. mr buffy has requested my assistance with wood splitting this morning. I also usually do the clothes washing on a Thursday, but I wait for the air to warm up a bit and the sun to be up enough to be on the solar collectors before I turn on the machine. We are thinking about a trip to the bush block tomorrow as it’s only forecast for 20 degrees and the bracken needs attention again. Should be safe to run the slashermower as the rain in the past few days has dampened things again.

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Ah. Likely nobody I know. Thanks.

sm’s GP.

What was their topic?

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

sm’s GP.

What was their topic?

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

What’s wrong with Frida Kahlo?

“A land dolphin in its natural habitat 🐬”

https://twitter.com/its_jessi_grace/status/1619700093439078401

buffy said:

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

An acquaintance of SM I think.

Ah. Likely nobody I know. Thanks.

sm’s GP.

Ah. Ta.

buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

sm’s GP.

What was their topic?

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

Explains why sm mentioned her (I looked up the name).

Good morning folks!

Overcast today!

Off shortly!

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What was their topic?

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

What’s wrong with Frida Kahlo?

monobrow

Witty Rejoinder said:

“A land dolphin in its natural habitat 🐬”

https://twitter.com/its_jessi_grace/status/1619700093439078401

:)

Witty Rejoinder said:

‘Our state is at war with our family’: Clergy with trans kids fight back
They say their children’s lives and religious liberty are threatened by bills in Missouri and elsewhere

By Ariana Eunjung Cha
Updated February 28, 2023 at 2:18 p.m. EST|Published February 28, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EST

“Daddy, do you think God could make me over again as a boy?”

Rabbi Daniel Bogard had just finished reading a story to his 6-year-old twin daughters one evening in 2019 when the older one by 15 seconds asked that question. Bogard wasn’t sure what to say, so he tucked them into bed, kissed them good night and left.

“It shook me,” he recalled.

As the months passed, and the child began asking people to use “boy words” to refer to him, cropping his hair short and joining the boys’ soccer team, the change just seemed to make sense. Friends, family and schoolmates accepted him as a boy, and he flourished.

All of which had brought the family to this fateful moment three years later. As Bogard and his now 9-year-old son piled into the family minivan at dawn for one of their regular four-hour round trips to the Missouri Capitol in Jefferson City to share their story with lawmakers, the rabbi worried what might lie ahead. Bills “to protect children,” as some Republicans described their measures restricting gender-affirming health care and limiting how schools treat gender identity, have become this year’s rallying cry in this state and elsewhere.

“Our state is at war with our family,” Bogard said. “It’s not an exaggeration that we are up at night talking about when and how far we might have to flee.”

In Missouri, Senate President Pro Tem Caleb Rowden ® had promised “big stuff” regarding “the transgender issue” this session. At least 31 bills, one of the largest number in any U.S. state, have been introduced by the Republican supermajority, targeting youth participation in competitive school sports, the ability to revise gender on birth certificates, gender-affirming medical treatments and other rights of LGBTQ people. Similar bills have been introduced in at least 11 states.

The measures that frighten families like the Bogards the most would classify efforts to support children and teens seeking medical treatment to help them transition to their preferred gender as child abuse. The legislation would carry criminal penalties for providers and possibly parents, although such treatments are supported by the country’s major medical associations such as the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychological Association and the American Association of Clinical Endocrinology.

Mississippi last week became the fifth state after Alabama, Utah, South Dakota and Arkansas to pass legislation restricting minors seeking gender-affirming care. Governors in Utah and South Dakota have signed the measures into law. In Florida, the state’s board of medicine has imposed similar limits.

The bills come at a time when gender identity in the United States is at a cultural inflection point. While the percentage of teens and young adults identifying as transgender remains minuscule, it has more than doubled from one generation to the next. Whereas 0.5 percent of all adults said in a 2017-2020 survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that they were transgender, 1.4 percent of 13-to-17-year-olds and 1.3 percent of those 18-to-24 identified themselves that way in the survey.

While the trend has been celebrated by those who see it as a reflection of social acceptance, there are deep divisions over the issue of gender identity, especially along religious and political lines.

On their recent trip to the state Capitol, the Bogards joined the families of two other faith leaders also intent on stopping measures they say would wreak havoc on their children’s lives. Despite being from different religious traditions — two are Jewish, and one is Christian — the leaders had become fast friends years ago while doing community service work. All had been in their 30s, idealistic and, as the years passed, had something else in common: Each ended up having a child who felt like they had been born the wrong gender.

Rori Picker Neiss, 37, an Orthodox Jewish rabbi, has a child who came out as a boy at 7, while still wearing dresses, taking ballet and sporting super-long hair — to the “total shock” of Picker Neiss.

Jennifer Harris Dault, 40, is a pastor at a Mennonite church. Her child had gravitated toward pink and purple, sparkly animal toys and other stereotypically girly things for years before telling her family at 5 that she is a girl. (The names of the children are being withheld to protect their privacy.)

The three faith leaders say religious liberty is at the core of the debate over transgender rights.

“It’s the imposition of one religious group’s gender norms on the rest of us. It’s theocracy and fascism,” said Bogard, 39.

Picker Neiss said her faith “doesn’t have simple answers to any of these questions,” adding, “But I don’t think God lives in binary. I think everything in our world has so much room for complexity and multiplicity.”

Harris Dault said her congregation has also been loving and supportive toward her child, but other “people claim their Christian faith is behind a lot of these bills, and that’s been hard to grapple with.”

The house his grandfather built

When Bogard’s child first brought up the idea of being a boy, he had gone to find his wife, Karen, also a rabbi at Central Reform Congregation in St. Louis, and they stayed up all night talking.

He wondered if his child’s feelings would pass. Karen Bogard, 39, thought she had seen clues, recalling how their middle child was always swiping his older brother’s clothing to wear in place of dresses and had been teased at camp the previous summer for wearing a boy’s bathing trunks and top.

An activist in the LGBTQ community whom Daniel Bogard confided in was the first to bring up the idea they had a “trans kid.” Bogard remembers being taken aback and stopping them, “Oh, don’t use labels.” But as weeks and then months went by, it became clear it was not a phase.

Their daughter kept asking for a boy’s haircut. Bogard and his wife hesitated and went through several, successively shorter iterations — first to the shoulders, then to the ears, and higher. “You could see us processing our internalized transphobia,” he said.

Finally, on March 13, 2020, Bogard’s child told his teacher that he was a boy and that he had picked a new name. The transition, it turned out, was almost a nonevent. Bogard recalled, “The school was like, ‘Great, change his name on the form. Just making sure this is the same human being?’ And that was that.”

Bogard talks with his son, who is transgender, about a bill that limits what can be said in public schools about LGBTQ issues.

Their synagogue, part of the Reform movement, also embraced the child as a boy. The largest Jewish denomination in the United States, Reform congregations have welcomed LGBTQ members for decades. In 2015, its Religious Action Center released a trans inclusion guide, and last week its rabbis vowed to play a leading role against anti-transgender bills. “It is our holy obligation to nurture and nourish each sacred human being, in all our diverse expressions and experiences of gender,” the Central Conference of American Rabbis said in a resolution.

In supporting their view that God intended there to be only two genders, some Christian groups have focused on the biblical story of how God created a man and a woman in his own image. But Bogard said the same text has been interpreted by some Jewish scholars as showing how we started out as having an amorphous gender and then were split apart — an analysis they say affirms all types of gender identities.

As a student of theology, Bogard remembered finding references to nonbinary people in the Talmud and classical Jewish law going back thousands of years, such as a trans man born female who was taught to lead prayers, marries a woman and is described as an upstanding member of the community.

“There’s this idea that being trans is something new, but it goes back all the way to the very beginning,” he said.

A local rabbi knitted the Bogards’ son a yarmulke, a skull cap worn by Jewish men, in the light blue, pink and white colors of the transgender pride flag, and a few families asked some questions about pronouns. But his son’s friends remained his friends. And he still had the same outgoing personality and loves all things sports. These days, he plays on the boys’ basketball and soccer teams and is starting baseball in the spring. He is also into chess, ceramics and 3D modeling software; teaching himself the ukulele; and talks about becoming a space scientist.

“Being trans is just about the least interesting thing about him,” Bogard likes to say.

His twin sister initially had a harder time accepting the change. She expressed sadness she might not have anyone to play dolls with anymore — until her dad pointed out that her brother had never played dolls with her. These days, she said, she feels lucky to have had a sister but is used to her twin being a boy.

“Trans people are regular people, but they just want to change a little bit,” she said.

Her twin brother, meanwhile, has matured enough to worry about how his life might change if new laws force children like him to play on sports teams according to their sex at birth.

“I would quit sports if I had to play on a girls’ team,” he said in an interview. “It’s not because I don’t like girls. I don’t want to play on a girls’ team because I’m a boy. I want to be fair.”

Bogard talks with his daughter about what it was like when her twin sister became her brother.

The Bogards’ son is still too young to be thinking about adolescence, but it’s something that his parents agonize about.

Many trans teens and adults have described the special pain of those years, of waking up each day feeling like their body is changing all of a sudden into the wrong gender, and the swirl of confusion, sadness and horror they felt. Gender-affirming care, such as hormone therapy, can delay puberty to give kids time to decide on the best treatment for them, or to help them develop masculine or feminine physical characteristics.

“We don’t know the future of what care looks like for him, but these are decisions that should be made by families and doctors,” Karen Bogard said.

Daniel Bogard is unsure whether the family will stay in Missouri if one of the sports bills passes, but he said they would be compelled to leave if lawmakers limit or, worse, criminalize medical treatments for children like his son.

That pains him on several levels because it recalls his family’s history of persecution and how that had led them to Missouri.

The Bogards live in a house built by his grandfather, whose own grandfather came to the United States in the late 1800s fleeing pogroms in Eastern Europe. Bogard’s father grew up in the same room that Bogard occupied as a child and that his son is now in — the fourth generation of his family to be in the home and the sixth in Missouri.

In the attacks on trans people in the United States, Bogard sees parallels to his great-great-grandfather’s plight and that of the Jewish community preceding the Holocaust.

“These are the conversations Jewish families were having in the late ’20s and early ’30s,” he said. “We’ll be talking about who’s taking the kids to soccer practice tomorrow one minute, and then it’s what’s the plan if we have to leave?”

As the family made their way along the bumpy ride to Jefferson City this month, Bogard’s 9-year-old was playing games on a phone, his wife was in the back working, and his mother, Denise, was anxiously wondering what to expect. Denise, 68, who has Parkinson’s disease, had been isolated for most of the past three years because of the coronavirus but had insisted on tagging along to support her grandchild.

Bogard was contemplating strategy.

Over the years, he had come to believe the best — and possibly only — hope for heading off aggressive anti-trans bills is to humanize the children and their families to help lawmakers understand they are scarcely different from their own — which is why he had allowed both his sons to go with him to tell lawmakers about their lives, despite the online vitriol and even death threats they have gotten in the past.

“We want them to see the cost of what they are doing to families like ours,” Bogard said.

The Democrats had been welcoming, and more moderate Republicans had been willing to listen. But on previous trips, some lawmakers and staff members had asked the children about their genitals, unapologetically used the wrong pronouns and offered to help them if they ever felt they needed protection from their parents.

The first time Harris Dault’s daughter, now 8, went to Jefferson City last year to talk about the anti-trans bills, Harris Dault recalled, “she had a breakdown.”

“She was clearly upset, and she didn’t have names for the emotions she was feeling,” Harris Dault, 40, recalled. It took her daughter a while to say, “I’m scared.”

Like Bogard’s son, Harris Dault’s daughter had enjoyed a childhood in which her gender identity had not been much of an issue: At 2, when she still identified as a boy, she wore tutus on special occasions. She had asked for dresses to wear to preschool. A couple of days after she told her family she was a girl, she logged onto her virtual kindergarten Zoom and typed into the chat: “im a girl.” She’s now an active Girl Scout and loves to play video games such as Animal Crossing and Minecraft when her parents allow.

Picker Ness, whose son told his first-grade teacher he wanted to be treated like a boy, is also a regular presence at the state Capitol now that he is 11. She said one of her most difficult moments as the parent of a transgender child was when she had to explain the bills being introduced in the state legislature.

“My son didn’t know a world where he was discriminated against, and it was really painful to have to be the one to introduce that concept to him,” she said.

During this trip to the state Capitol, discrimination was the theme of an emotional plea from the Bogards’ eldest son, an 11-year-old who wants to be a meteorologist.

“I’m here because I have a trans brother and a trans friend,” he said in remarks that he wrote himself. “I am here because you, the Missouri government, keep trying to take away what they have a passion for … Kids just want to have fun playing sports.”

A video of the testimony on TikTok, posted by his dad, has garnered 57,000 likes and counting.

Later, the adolescent recalled that he was nervous but happy to see that the lawmakers were silent and appeared to be listening: “It made me feel like I have some power to say stuff.”

“My biggest fear is probably: Is this bill going to lead to more bills that will be worse?” he added in an interview. He then paused. “I don’t know if it’s even possible. Is it possible for a bill to say that you’re not even allowed to be transgender? Is that even possible?”

Bogard’s eldest child speaks about his fears for his brother, who is transgender.

Dueling views
In Missouri, many lawmakers promoting transgender legislation cite their Christian faith.

Like several sponsors of transgender legislation, state Rep. Justin Sparks ® lists his church in his official House biography. He introduced the Children Deserve Help Not Harm Act, which would bar health professionals from providing, and others from aiding, gender-affirming care for minors. He said that while some people “believe for moral or religious reasons, gender transition should be fully outlawed, I am not one of those people.”

Sparks said he worried some children would regret having had such treatments when they were older. He spoke of a family member who had transitioned to another gender, then changed their mind after several years and transitioned back.

“I am a man of faith and I am a Christian, and I believe the Lord gives us free will,” Sparks said. “And when you are above the age of 18, you will have free will.”

State Rep. Michael Davis ®, a 20-something from Kansas City, Mo., who used to work as a grass-roots director for a conservative advocacy group and for an elementary school after-care program, also proclaims his Christian faith. He tweeted recently that his “religious views oppose allowing transgenders to place their nonbiological sex onto their birth certificates.”

“Laws allowing the practice creates an undue burden on my faith, violating the free exercise clause,” he wrote.

Those views reflect a fault line in American attitudes about policies regarding transgender individuals that often follows religious ties. White evangelicals, in particular, more strongly favor bans on teacching about gender identity in public schools, and requiring transgender athletes compete on teams that match their sex at birth, for example, than those who are not religiously affiliated, according to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey.

With emotions running so high this session, state Sen. Greg Razer (D), the chamber’s only openly gay member, worried the fight this year is stacked against transgender children and their families. “The extremes are driving the agenda, and every year, the extremes get more extreme,” said Razer, a Missouri native who previously worked for former senator Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).

Bogard shares that view. He said he once felt hopeful that “progress was possible, and even if we weren’t winning, we would win eventually.”

“That’s not what it feels like anymore,” he said. “It feels like we’ve lost and the levers of power have been stolen.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/02/28/missouri-transgender-bills/?

I thought we’d moved on from having “girl’s” and “boy’s” haircuts and clothes, particularly in children. That’s very 1950s. If it’s just about “the look” there shouldn’t be any trouble at all. Jeans became almost universal waaay back in the 1960s. Mostly because of practicality, I’d guess. The sport thing is a bit odd too for the under 10s. Girls are stronger and more physically developed at that point so an XX in a boys’ team would be at an advantage and an XY in a girls’ team would be at a disadvantage.

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What was their topic?

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

What’s wrong with Frida Kahlo?

Weird art. Even the GP described it that say (she may not have used the word weird, but she certainly said it was at time unfathomable) and she’s a fan.

I’m off outside to feed the chooks and pull out some ivy.

Morning pilgrims, looks like rain.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning pilgrims, looks like rain.

Not here it doesn’t.

sarahs mum said:

The Legalise Cannabis MPs lobbying for change in Victoria | 7.30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8J9TC6uHWM

David Ettershank?

There’s a lot of Sales on right now and they are called March Madness because some of them are selling at a loss.
These are terrific Sales, I’ve already put more money into my Credit Card and I think you should do the same otherwise you could miss out.

Peak Warming Man said:

There’s a lot of Sales on right now and they are called March Madness because some of them are selling at a loss.
These are terrific Sales, I’ve already put more money into my Credit Card and I think you should do the same otherwise you could miss out.

Sales of what but?

Report on the fifth covid shot. I was up in the midle of the night but nothing unusual there. At about 3:30. got up again and wondered what was wrong with my shoulder the one that had been operated on last year.
It was after a couple of minutes I realised that this was the arm I’d had the multi-strain covid shot into. It was quite painful. Lay back down for a couple of hours and now that shoulder barely hurts at all.
No problems with the JEV shot arm.

Michael V said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Who?

An acquaintance of SM I think.

Ah. Likely nobody I know. Thanks.

SM’s doctor.

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What was their topic?

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

What’s wrong with Frida Kahlo?

what’s wrong with weird artist women?

Ian said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

What’s wrong with Frida Kahlo?

monobrow

sarahs mum said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

Frida Kahlo. Weird artist woman.

What’s wrong with Frida Kahlo?

what’s wrong with weird artist women?

Apparently a long ramble about vaginas did not go to air.

The Australian Federal Police say there has been an increase in shipments of the drug known as ice from Afghanistan since the Taliban took over in 2021.

The level of employer concentration in some of Australia’s labour markets is so high that powerful employers are suppressing workers’ wages.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

There’s a lot of Sales on right now and they are called March Madness because some of them are selling at a loss.
These are terrific Sales, I’ve already put more money into my Credit Card and I think you should do the same otherwise you could miss out.

Sales of what but?

Don’t worry, Harvey Norman will tell you repeatedly until it makes you nauseous.

roughbarked said:

The Australian Federal Police say there has been an increase in shipments of the drug known as ice from Afghanistan since the Taliban took over in 2021.

Their Economy Must Grow, as SCIENCE would say.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

There’s a lot of Sales on right now and they are called March Madness because some of them are selling at a loss.
These are terrific Sales, I’ve already put more money into my Credit Card and I think you should do the same otherwise you could miss out.

Sales of what but?

Don’t worry, Harvey Norman will tell you repeatedly until it makes you nauseous.

I don’t listen.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

The Australian Federal Police say there has been an increase in shipments of the drug known as ice from Afghanistan since the Taliban took over in 2021.

Their Economy Must Grow, as SCIENCE would say.

Interesting that they have moved from Hashish and Opium to Ice manufacture though.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Sales of what but?

Don’t worry, Harvey Norman will tell you repeatedly until it makes you nauseous.

I don’t listen.

We get a lot of junk mail, and Harvey Norman ads make up a considerable portion of the local paper.

I look through it, and say to myself ‘don’t need that, don’t want that, would never even think about having that, etc. etc.’ and then it goes into the recycling bin.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning pilgrims, looks like rain.

Mostly cloudy here, but not looking like rain.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning pilgrims, looks like rain.

Mostly cloudy here, but not looking like rain.

I’n doing a Willie Nelson, singing Blue Skies.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

There’s a lot of Sales on right now and they are called March Madness because some of them are selling at a loss.
These are terrific Sales, I’ve already put more money into my Credit Card and I think you should do the same otherwise you could miss out.

Sales of what but?

Don’t worry, Harvey Norman will tell you repeatedly until it makes you nauseous.

I’m sure they will. As will Godfrey’s etc.