Well, that was Friday night at the end of a long week. Although, it was no longer – or shorter – than previous weeks.
It just felt like it.

Anyway, a chance to duck in, change the thread title, and consign last month’s Chat thread to history.

AussieDJ said:

Well, that was Friday night at the end of a long week. Although, it was no longer – or shorter – than previous weeks.
It just felt like it.

Anyway, a chance to duck in, change the thread title, and consign last month’s Chat thread to history.

Gosh. In 12 days I go under the surgeon’s knife.

I once saw an episode of America’s Dumbest Criminals where a man called the cops to report his car stolen, only for it to turn out he’d stolen it from someone else in the first place. I couldn’t help thinking of him this week while watching OpenAI’s Sam Altman wet his pants about the fact that a Chinese hedge fund might have made unauthorised use of his own chatbot models, including ChatGPT, to train its new little side project. This is the cheaper, more open, extremely share-price-slashing DeepSeek.

As news of DeepSeek played havoc with the tech stock market, OpenAI pressed its hanky to its nose and released a statement: “We are aware of and reviewing indications that DeepSeek may have inappropriately distilled our models, and will share information as we know more,” this ran. “We take aggressive, proactive countermeasures to protect our technology.” Oooooooooh! I want to say “welcome to America’s Dumbest Tech Barons”…

Garud

Good morning Holidayers. Presently 10 degrees at the back door, still dark. We are forecast a sunny 36 today (and then two days of 39). Today the wind is forecast for Easterly. But tomorrow it is forecast to go North. There was a bit of gusting during the night, but not a lot by our normal wind standards here.

I’m going to have breakfast with my bushwandering friend and then I have to do the garden shredding I put off yesterday because of the koala. I’m afraid if it is still in the tree it will just have to put up with the noise. I need to reduce the litter under the trees. And not for aesthetic reasons.

Morning pilgrims, I think the wet season has finally arrived in FNQ.
How’s the mill stream Tamb?

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

Koalas still about?

roughbarked said:

AussieDJ said:

Well, that was Friday night at the end of a long week. Although, it was no longer – or shorter – than previous weeks.
It just felt like it.

Anyway, a chance to duck in, change the thread title, and consign last month’s Chat thread to history.

Gosh. In 12 days I go under the surgeon’s knife.

What for?

Caught a bit of an old interview with Marianne Faithful on the RN Music Show this morning.

Here’s the full programme:

Music Show 1Feb25

Witty Rejoinder said:

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

Koalas still about?

Can’t locate her this morning. If she is up there, she didn’t let me know by pissing or pooing on me (yes, they will do that, probably not with malice though). I’ve done that work and now I’ve got a sprinkler going under the gums to at least have damp soil underneath them.

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

Which of the Forumites was learning the Irish language?

captain_spalding said:

Which of the Forumites was learning the Irish language?

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Which of the Forumites was learning the Irish language?

I thought it was her. Wasn’t sure.

captain_spalding said:

Which of the Forumites was learning the Irish language?

Spockette.

roughbarked said:

captain_spalding said:

Which of the Forumites was learning the Irish language?

Spockette.

Ta.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

mt wellington had 4 mills. the rest of the south…nothing.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

That’s good.

The Grampians were disappeared in smoke completely this morning, but I can make out Mt Abrupt again now. The light is not so red now. On the bad side, the wind has moved around from South (good for us, not for the Northern Grampians) to NE. Still probably safe for us, good for the Northern Grampians, not good for Hamilton. No-one is on “run away” orders at the moment. The Grampians National Park is closed again. Personally I don’t think it was wise to have opened it again, but there you go. These fires, both the ones before Christmas and the current ones, were started by dry lightning. The first fire has burnt 76,700 hectares (Under control) and this one (not yet controlled) has burnt 24,300 hectares.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

mt wellington had 4 mills. the rest of the south…nothing.

My place 198mm

Peak Warming Man said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

But…but…are you supposed to get both at once?

Peak Warming Man said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

One big plus. All my tanks are overflowing,

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

That’s good.

The Grampians were disappeared in smoke completely this morning, but I can make out Mt Abrupt again now. The light is not so red now. On the bad side, the wind has moved around from South (good for us, not for the Northern Grampians) to NE. Still probably safe for us, good for the Northern Grampians, not good for Hamilton. No-one is on “run away” orders at the moment. The Grampians National Park is closed again. Personally I don’t think it was wise to have opened it again, but there you go. These fires, both the ones before Christmas and the current ones, were started by dry lightning. The first fire has burnt 76,700 hectares (Under control) and this one (not yet controlled) has burnt 24,300 hectares.

I’m glad the falls track is closed. It would be awful to be on it during an oncoming fire.

Peak Warming Man said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

and dry heat.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Tamb said:

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

But…but…are you supposed to get both at once?

Bo fires, no floods but heck it is bloody dry.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

mt wellington had 4 mills. the rest of the south…nothing.

My place 198mm

that would be enough to put the fire out and flood the huon.

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Tamb said:

Aus is certainly a land of contrasts. You have fires we have floods.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

One big plus. All my tanks are overflowing,

And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“If this rain doesn’t stop.”

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Hot with northwesterlies, not good for your situation.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Hot with northwesterlies, not good for your situation.

..actually most of the fire seems to be slightly south of you.

Apparently Red Rock West is one of the best regarded movies ever. I’ve never heard of it.

dv said:

Apparently Red Rock West is one of the best regarded movies ever. I’ve never heard of it.

+1

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Apparently Red Rock West is one of the best regarded movies ever. I’ve never heard of it.

+1

Red Rock West is a 1993 American post-Western neo-noir thriller film directed by John Dahl and starring Nicolas Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, J. T. Walsh, and Dennis Hopper. It was written by Dahl and his brother Rick, and shot in Montana, Willcox, Arizona, Sonoita, Arizona and Elgin, Arizon

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Apparently Red Rock West is one of the best regarded movies ever. I’ve never heard of it.

+1

Red Rock West is a 1993 American post-Western neo-noir thriller film directed by John Dahl and starring Nicolas Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, J. T. Walsh, and Dennis Hopper. It was written by Dahl and his brother Rick, and shot in Montana, Willcox, Arizona, Sonoita, Arizona and Elgin, Arizon

Well it doesn’t sound like my cup of tea.

Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

+1

Red Rock West is a 1993 American post-Western neo-noir thriller film directed by John Dahl and starring Nicolas Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, J. T. Walsh, and Dennis Hopper. It was written by Dahl and his brother Rick, and shot in Montana, Willcox, Arizona, Sonoita, Arizona and Elgin, Arizon

Well it doesn’t sound like my cup of tea.

The neo-noir bit turned me right off.

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Apparently Red Rock West is one of the best regarded movies ever. I’ve never heard of it.

+1

Red Rock West is a 1993 American post-Western neo-noir thriller film directed by John Dahl and starring Nicolas Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, J. T. Walsh, and Dennis Hopper. It was written by Dahl and his brother Rick, and shot in Montana, Willcox, Arizona, Sonoita, Arizona and Elgin, Arizon

WTF is “neo-noir” then?

party_pants said:

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

+1

Red Rock West is a 1993 American post-Western neo-noir thriller film directed by John Dahl and starring Nicolas Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, J. T. Walsh, and Dennis Hopper. It was written by Dahl and his brother Rick, and shot in Montana, Willcox, Arizona, Sonoita, Arizona and Elgin, Arizon

WTF is “neo-noir” then?

Neo-noir is a genre of films that use the visual style and themes of classic film noir but add a modern sensibility. It is a reimagining of the film noir genre, often synthesizing diverse genres while foregrounding the scaffolding of film noir. Neo-noir movies blend traditional film noir elements with themes from science fiction, psychological thriller, horror, and crime.

party_pants said:

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

+1

Red Rock West is a 1993 American post-Western neo-noir thriller film directed by John Dahl and starring Nicolas Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, J. T. Walsh, and Dennis Hopper. It was written by Dahl and his brother Rick, and shot in Montana, Willcox, Arizona, Sonoita, Arizona and Elgin, Arizon

WTF is “neo-noir” then?

New dark, like “the new black”.

One of my favourite films, Things To Do In Denver When You’re Dead, is neo-noir.

But unlike Red Rock West, it is not well-regarded by critics generally.

dv said:

Apparently Red Rock West is one of the best regarded movies ever. I’ve never heard of it.

Never heard of Red Rock West!! sheesh.

dv said:

One of my favourite films, Things To Do In Denver When You’re Dead, is neo-noir.

But unlike Red Rock West, it is not well-regarded by critics generally.

Sounds dangerously subversive, having your own opinions and ignoring the professionsal critics.

Hot dog with cheese, onion and tomato sauce.
Over.

party_pants said:

dv said:

One of my favourite films, Things To Do In Denver When You’re Dead, is neo-noir.

But unlike Red Rock West, it is not well-regarded by critics generally.

Sounds dangerously subversive, having your own opinions and ignoring the professionsal critics.

Keep an eye on him.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Apparently Red Rock West is one of the best regarded movies ever. I’ve never heard of it.

Never heard of Red Rock West!! sheesh.

Well excuse me Margaret Pomeranz

https://youtu.be/K4c36uPd57E?si=vwIZHb6pH13NoUhq

Heligoland: the small isle that was Britain’s for 80 years.

Erk…just went out to hang the clothes on the line. It is, as some of my patients used to describe it, “smurry” out there. A combinations of smeary and blurry. The smoke has arrived.

I hung out the clothes anyway. They will smell of smoke, but they will dry quite quickly.

dv said:

https://youtu.be/K4c36uPd57E?si=vwIZHb6pH13NoUhq

Heligoland: the small isle that was Britain’s for 80 years.

TIL that South Australia’s first governor, Hindmarsh, later went on to govern Heligoland.

Of the six men to be first governor of an Australian colony, only one stayed on in Australia after leaving the role: Hotham in Victoia. This was probably mainly due to poor health and he died not long after leaving office.

captain_spalding said:

Which of the Forumites was learning the Irish language?

Spockie.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

How is sm going this morning? She’s probably got that horrible red smokey light that we’ve got, but hers will be worse than ours.

I’m off outside for more “raking the forest” type work.

I’ve been chainsawing as a couple of big branches were downish. I mean they were hanging up and therefore couldn’t stay that way.

i’m okay. it was misty this morning. notable lack of airborne firefighters. but the mist has cleared and the noise is starting up again. TFs says no immediate threat today. No new hot spots.

But they are still warning about the next couple of days.

Keep safe.

Michael V said:

captain_spalding said:

Which of the Forumites was learning the Irish language?

Spockie.

Thanks. I thought it was Spockie, but wasn’t sure.

I’m going to lie down and read for a bit. The wind is now from the North…which is why we are now getting the smoke. It’s just a waiting game now. And hoping the defences they’ve put in place can hold.

dv said:

dv said:

https://youtu.be/K4c36uPd57E?si=vwIZHb6pH13NoUhq

Heligoland: the small isle that was Britain’s for 80 years.

TIL that South Australia’s first governor, Hindmarsh, later went on to govern Heligoland.

Of the six men to be first governor of an Australian colony, only one stayed on in Australia after leaving the role: Hotham in Victoia. This was probably mainly due to poor health and he died not long after leaving office.

My brain went straight to this…
Heligoland by Massive Attack

dv said:

dv said:

https://youtu.be/K4c36uPd57E?si=vwIZHb6pH13NoUhq

Heligoland: the small isle that was Britain’s for 80 years.

TIL that South Australia’s first governor, Hindmarsh, later went on to govern Heligoland.

Of the six men to be first governor of an Australian colony, only one stayed on in Australia after leaving the role: Hotham in Victoia. This was probably mainly due to poor health and he died not long after leaving office.

BUT DO THEY PAY TAXES

party_pants said:

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

+1

Red Rock West is a 1993 American post-Western neo-noir thriller film directed by John Dahl and starring Nicolas Cage, Lara Flynn Boyle, J. T. Walsh, and Dennis Hopper. It was written by Dahl and his brother Rick, and shot in Montana, Willcox, Arizona, Sonoita, Arizona and Elgin, Arizon

WTF is “neo-noir” then?

New Black.

Orange, I understand.

It is eerily quiet here. Very little traffic around. There is virtually no wind, but we have still got smoke. I think everyone is just sitting waiting. Just had a look at FlightRadar24 and I see a Melbourne to Hamilton light plane managed to do a loop up over the Grampians on the way. That is not the way from Melbourne to Hamilton. More journalists? Only a couple of helicopters on the go at the moment, and there is a notice that there may be more backburning shortly.

sm…how’s things at your place?

buffy said:

It is eerily quiet here. Very little traffic around. There is virtually no wind, but we have still got smoke. I think everyone is just sitting waiting. Just had a look at FlightRadar24 and I see a Melbourne to Hamilton light plane managed to do a loop up over the Grampians on the way. That is not the way from Melbourne to Hamilton. More journalists? Only a couple of helicopters on the go at the moment, and there is a notice that there may be more backburning shortly.

Might be worse, a politician :)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-01/firefighters-in-burnover-at-esperance-bushfire/104885342

Three crew: one with minor burns, one with a minor injury, and one with just soiled undies. All released from hospital.

Firetruck barbeued.

Kingy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-01/firefighters-in-burnover-at-esperance-bushfire/104885342

Three crew: one with minor burns, one with a minor injury, and one with just soiled undies. All released from hospital.

Firetruck barbeued.

:(

1/6 and a review lost. That was hitting the middle of middle stump.

party_pants said:

1/6 and a review lost. That was hitting the middle of middle stump.

pretend like you didn’t see a thing

just watched…

Margate TFS – Community Briefing
link

glad I stayed at home.

480 hectares with a perimeter of 26k.

9 bulldozers working the north, east and south edges. initial effort air only until they started opening up the old logging roads.

Kingy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-01/firefighters-in-burnover-at-esperance-bushfire/104885342

Three crew: one with minor burns, one with a minor injury, and one with just soiled undies. All released from hospital.

Firetruck barbeued.

Bloody!

Bloody lucky!

There seems to be a nationwide shortage of pedestal fans. Be alert but not alarmed.

Witty Rejoinder said:

There seems to be a nationwide shortage of pedestal fans. Be alert but not alarmed.

Well, there is one sitting right beside me and looking glum because it is not turned on. But it is rather naughty. If I turn it on it blows all the papers on my desk all over the place.

Ancient DNA analyses bring to life the 11,000-year intertwined genomic history of sheep and humans

https://phys.org/news/2025-01-ancient-dna-analyses-life-year.amp

Kingy probably doesn’t need to see our apocalyptic light at the moment. Remember that view of the Grampians I showed you lot from our front gate the other day? Well, it’s smoky here, but it must be really horrible up there. They have completely disappeared. Mercifully there is very little wind. At the moment…

Looking East along our road.

And the sun is very diluted and very red. But it doesn’t show up in the photos. It is a stunning orangey red, almost dull enough to look directly at it.

This chap has been hanging around with some of his family in the front yard where there are large dishes of water and a low use sprinkler going. The little birds – bluewrens, fantails etc and some ravens have been playing under the sprinklers in the backyard.

buffy said:

Kingy probably doesn’t need to see our apocalyptic light at the moment. Remember that view of the Grampians I showed you lot from our front gate the other day? Well, it’s smoky here, but it must be really horrible up there. They have completely disappeared. Mercifully there is very little wind. At the moment…

Looking East along our road.

And the sun is very diluted and very red. But it doesn’t show up in the photos. It is a stunning orangey red, almost dull enough to look directly at it.

This chap has been hanging around with some of his family in the front yard where there are large dishes of water and a low use sprinkler going. The little birds – bluewrens, fantails etc and some ravens have been playing under the sprinklers in the backyard.

If you have that myfirewatch tab open, one of the options is for it to show the wind speed and direction on the map, but you will need to refresh the page to get the updated weather.

buffy said:

Kingy probably doesn’t need to see our apocalyptic light at the moment. Remember that view of the Grampians I showed you lot from our front gate the other day? Well, it’s smoky here, but it must be really horrible up there. They have completely disappeared. Mercifully there is very little wind. At the moment…

Looking East along our road.

And the sun is very diluted and very red. But it doesn’t show up in the photos. It is a stunning orangey red, almost dull enough to look directly at it.

This chap has been hanging around with some of his family in the front yard where there are large dishes of water and a low use sprinkler going. The little birds – bluewrens, fantails etc and some ravens have been playing under the sprinklers in the backyard.

yuck. it is a lot clearer here. Although it is looking active. perhaps backburning..

Witty Rejoinder said:

Ancient DNA analyses bring to life the 11,000-year intertwined genomic history of sheep and humans

https://phys.org/news/2025-01-ancient-dna-analyses-life-year.amp

I didn’t think humans had been in NZ that long.

Kingy said:

buffy said:

Kingy probably doesn’t need to see our apocalyptic light at the moment. Remember that view of the Grampians I showed you lot from our front gate the other day? Well, it’s smoky here, but it must be really horrible up there. They have completely disappeared. Mercifully there is very little wind. At the moment…

Looking East along our road.

And the sun is very diluted and very red. But it doesn’t show up in the photos. It is a stunning orangey red, almost dull enough to look directly at it.

This chap has been hanging around with some of his family in the front yard where there are large dishes of water and a low use sprinkler going. The little birds – bluewrens, fantails etc and some ravens have been playing under the sprinklers in the backyard.

If you have that myfirewatch tab open, one of the options is for it to show the wind speed and direction on the map, but you will need to refresh the page to get the updated weather.

Yes, thanks. I discovered that. I knew we’d have the smoke about half an hour before it got here. It’s been like this since mid morning now.

Boris said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Ancient DNA analyses bring to life the 11,000-year intertwined genomic history of sheep and humans

https://phys.org/news/2025-01-ancient-dna-analyses-life-year.amp

I didn’t think humans had been in NZ that long.

Most amusing

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Kingy probably doesn’t need to see our apocalyptic light at the moment. Remember that view of the Grampians I showed you lot from our front gate the other day? Well, it’s smoky here, but it must be really horrible up there. They have completely disappeared. Mercifully there is very little wind. At the moment…

Looking East along our road.

And the sun is very diluted and very red. But it doesn’t show up in the photos. It is a stunning orangey red, almost dull enough to look directly at it.

This chap has been hanging around with some of his family in the front yard where there are large dishes of water and a low use sprinkler going. The little birds – bluewrens, fantails etc and some ravens have been playing under the sprinklers in the backyard.

yuck. it is a lot clearer here. Although it is looking active. perhaps backburning..

VicEmergency warned of backburning in the Grampians around lunchtime. I should look again. Mr buffy has got the app on his phone, but I haven’t heard any bipbipbips. It’s sort of eery. Not much traffic around, the birds aren’t making much noise. There are some people over the road at the swimming pool. But I think everyone is just waiting. My bushwalking friend and I said to each other this morning…“see you on the other side of the heatwave”. Our next two days are forecast to be our worst.

Before Harambe, there were two famous incidents of little kids getting into gorilla enclosures: those of the male Jambo and the female Binti Jua. In both cases, the gorilla acted protectively and gently towards the child and the stories ended happily. In tbe Harambe case, the gorilla was acting more ambiguously, seeming to be asserting dominance.

buffy said:

Kingy said:

buffy said:

Kingy probably doesn’t need to see our apocalyptic light at the moment. Remember that view of the Grampians I showed you lot from our front gate the other day? Well, it’s smoky here, but it must be really horrible up there. They have completely disappeared. Mercifully there is very little wind. At the moment…

Looking East along our road.

And the sun is very diluted and very red. But it doesn’t show up in the photos. It is a stunning orangey red, almost dull enough to look directly at it.

This chap has been hanging around with some of his family in the front yard where there are large dishes of water and a low use sprinkler going. The little birds – bluewrens, fantails etc and some ravens have been playing under the sprinklers in the backyard.

If you have that myfirewatch tab open, one of the options is for it to show the wind speed and direction on the map, but you will need to refresh the page to get the updated weather.

Yes, thanks. I discovered that. I knew we’d have the smoke about half an hour before it got here. It’s been like this since mid morning now.

We seem to be right where the wind from the South meets the wind from the North at the moment. The “new” fire in the Grampians is now at 24,500 hectares. So far it looks like they’ve managed to keep it mostly inside the National Park. If it hops out into the grazing land it will move much faster. The forecast for tomorrow is for 38, with light winds, but possible thunderstorms. With maybe 4mm rain.

sees like smoke haze all day here, not sure if buffy or whoever been on the bong all day, though dusty night lastnight, had to wet the yard down and upwind

transition said:

sees like smoke haze all day here, not sure if buffy or whoever been on the bong all day, though dusty night lastnight, had to wet the yard down and upwind

has look at winds in windy.com, could be from tasmania or victoria

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Kingy probably doesn’t need to see our apocalyptic light at the moment. Remember that view of the Grampians I showed you lot from our front gate the other day? Well, it’s smoky here, but it must be really horrible up there. They have completely disappeared. Mercifully there is very little wind. At the moment…

Looking East along our road.

And the sun is very diluted and very red. But it doesn’t show up in the photos. It is a stunning orangey red, almost dull enough to look directly at it.

This chap has been hanging around with some of his family in the front yard where there are large dishes of water and a low use sprinkler going. The little birds – bluewrens, fantails etc and some ravens have been playing under the sprinklers in the backyard.

yuck. it is a lot clearer here. Although it is looking active. perhaps backburning..

VicEmergency warned of backburning in the Grampians around lunchtime. I should look again. Mr buffy has got the app on his phone, but I haven’t heard any bipbipbips. It’s sort of eery. Not much traffic around, the birds aren’t making much noise. There are some people over the road at the swimming pool. But I think everyone is just waiting. My bushwalking friend and I said to each other this morning…“see you on the other side of the heatwave”. Our next two days are forecast to be our worst.

monday and tuesday here.

Update…smoke clearing. This morning it was dark grey in the West, like a thunderstorm, but turned out to be dust. Now clearing from the West and it looks very dark to the East. Melbourne are going to be thrilled that we’ve sent that to them…

England are 2/100 need 170 more to make Aus. bat again.

Peak Warming Man said:

England are 2/100 need 170 more to make Aus. bat again.

Make that 3/100

Buffy! I hope all goes well for the next few days with the fires.
A big thank you for your parcel. What a surprise.
Funny thing, I had seen a clip from Little House on the Prairie yesterday morning and was admiring the bonnets. I thought ‘they must look rather like Buffy’s bonnet. I should get a pattern and make one’. I get home later in the day to find your parcel, and lo and behold I am now inducted into the Bold Bonnet Wearers Society.
What a work of art it is. But will I be bold enough to wear it bushwalking is the next question.

Bit of rain in my home town.

Not associated particularly with a cyclone or major low

dv said:

Bit of rain in my home town.

Not associated particularly with a cyclone or major low

Looks to be a one-in-a-hundred-year flood coming for the area. It’s been, umm, I think 6 years since the last one-in-a-hundred-year flood for them….

If you call it “Happy Potato Juice”, then you can get away with drinking vodka as breakfast juice.

OK village clothes, bottlo, let’s go.

Bubblecar said:

OK village clothes, bottlo, let’s go.

Don’t get overheated. Remember Dr Mosley.

ruby said:

Buffy! I hope all goes well for the next few days with the fires.
A big thank you for your parcel. What a surprise.
Funny thing, I had seen a clip from Little House on the Prairie yesterday morning and was admiring the bonnets. I thought ‘they must look rather like Buffy’s bonnet. I should get a pattern and make one’. I get home later in the day to find your parcel, and lo and behold I am now inducted into the Bold Bonnet Wearers Society.
What a work of art it is. But will I be bold enough to wear it bushwalking is the next question.

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

buffy said:

ruby said:

Buffy! I hope all goes well for the next few days with the fires.
A big thank you for your parcel. What a surprise.
Funny thing, I had seen a clip from Little House on the Prairie yesterday morning and was admiring the bonnets. I thought ‘they must look rather like Buffy’s bonnet. I should get a pattern and make one’. I get home later in the day to find your parcel, and lo and behold I am now inducted into the Bold Bonnet Wearers Society.
What a work of art it is. But will I be bold enough to wear it bushwalking is the next question.

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

If you want the pattern, it is here:

https://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/how-to-make-a-sunbonnet-zmaz78jazbur/

Fairly old pattern and you have to draft it out, but you’ve got a made up one to compare to if you decide to have a go. If you don’t want to draft, let me know and I’ll cut you a pattern from my pattern and post it to you.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18njoWKz7Y/

“Just think what the modern world could accomplish if we remembered that it is both our heritage and our birthright to care.”.

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18njoWKz7Y/

“Just think what the modern world could accomplish if we remembered that it is both our heritage and our birthright to care.”.

If only everyone did.

buffy said:

ruby said:

Buffy! I hope all goes well for the next few days with the fires.
A big thank you for your parcel. What a surprise.
Funny thing, I had seen a clip from Little House on the Prairie yesterday morning and was admiring the bonnets. I thought ‘they must look rather like Buffy’s bonnet. I should get a pattern and make one’. I get home later in the day to find your parcel, and lo and behold I am now inducted into the Bold Bonnet Wearers Society.
What a work of art it is. But will I be bold enough to wear it bushwalking is the next question.

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

Perhaps I shall go all regency and waft about near ponds

Kingy said:

That’s trippy.

ruby said:

buffy said:

ruby said:

Buffy! I hope all goes well for the next few days with the fires.
A big thank you for your parcel. What a surprise.
Funny thing, I had seen a clip from Little House on the Prairie yesterday morning and was admiring the bonnets. I thought ‘they must look rather like Buffy’s bonnet. I should get a pattern and make one’. I get home later in the day to find your parcel, and lo and behold I am now inducted into the Bold Bonnet Wearers Society.
What a work of art it is. But will I be bold enough to wear it bushwalking is the next question.

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

Perhaps I shall go all regency and waft about near ponds

Sounds grand.

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18njoWKz7Y/

“Just think what the modern world could accomplish if we remembered that it is both our heritage and our birthright to care.”.

And then they planted grain.

Buffy is recruiting members to some sort of crazy middle-aged women club.

ruby said:

buffy said:

ruby said:

Buffy! I hope all goes well for the next few days with the fires.
A big thank you for your parcel. What a surprise.
Funny thing, I had seen a clip from Little House on the Prairie yesterday morning and was admiring the bonnets. I thought ‘they must look rather like Buffy’s bonnet. I should get a pattern and make one’. I get home later in the day to find your parcel, and lo and behold I am now inducted into the Bold Bonnet Wearers Society.
What a work of art it is. But will I be bold enough to wear it bushwalking is the next question.

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

Perhaps I shall go all regency and waft about near ponds

Puts on Mr Darcy hat.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Buffy is recruiting members to some sort of crazy middle-aged women club.

Zebra bonnets?

Peak Warming Man said:

ruby said:

buffy said:

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

Perhaps I shall go all regency and waft about near ponds

Puts on Mr Darcy hat.

Apparently it is the wet shirt that is the thing…

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18njoWKz7Y/

“Just think what the modern world could accomplish if we remembered that it is both our heritage and our birthright to care.”.

love.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Buffy is recruiting members to some sort of crazy middle-aged women club.

Yep, the thought had crossed my mind.
Imagine, the sight of an army of older ladies with black and white stripey bonnets, redback boots, wielding secateurs and hiking poles. “Behave yourselves!”

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18njoWKz7Y/

“Just think what the modern world could accomplish if we remembered that it is both our heritage and our birthright to care.”.

And then they planted grain.

no grain, no beer

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18njoWKz7Y/

“Just think what the modern world could accomplish if we remembered that it is both our heritage and our birthright to care.”.

And then they planted grain.

no grain, no beer

strict.

buffy said:

buffy said:

ruby said:

Buffy! I hope all goes well for the next few days with the fires.
A big thank you for your parcel. What a surprise.
Funny thing, I had seen a clip from Little House on the Prairie yesterday morning and was admiring the bonnets. I thought ‘they must look rather like Buffy’s bonnet. I should get a pattern and make one’. I get home later in the day to find your parcel, and lo and behold I am now inducted into the Bold Bonnet Wearers Society.
What a work of art it is. But will I be bold enough to wear it bushwalking is the next question.

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

If you want the pattern, it is here:

https://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/how-to-make-a-sunbonnet-zmaz78jazbur/

Fairly old pattern and you have to draft it out, but you’ve got a made up one to compare to if you decide to have a go. If you don’t want to draft, let me know and I’ll cut you a pattern from my pattern and post it to you.

Thanks for the link Buffy.
I used to draft patterns when I was sewing clothes for my kids, that pattern looks easy enough to do. I shall aspire to your neatness of sewing.

BACK. Did get overheated, didn’t collapse and die.

Peak Warming Man said:

ruby said:

buffy said:

Go on…you know you can! But you don’t have to care what other people think when they stare…

:)

Perhaps I shall go all regency and waft about near ponds

Puts on Mr Darcy hat.

Plenty of room for bees in there.

Bubblecar said:

BACK. Did get overheated, didn’t collapse and die.

The good Lord chose not to take you today.

Have you seen this one sarahs mum?

Lost Highland Road Hobart – Mystery Solved?

Bubblecar said:

Have you seen this one sarahs mum?

Lost Highland Road Hobart – Mystery Solved?

yep.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Have you seen this one sarahs mum?

Lost Highland Road Hobart – Mystery Solved?

yep.

Ta, that’ll be interesting.

buffy said:

Update…smoke clearing. This morning it was dark grey in the West, like a thunderstorm, but turned out to be dust. Now clearing from the West and it looks very dark to the East. Melbourne are going to be thrilled that we’ve sent that to them…

Yeah. Thanks.

Kingy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-01/firefighters-in-burnover-at-esperance-bushfire/104885342

Three crew: one with minor burns, one with a minor injury, and one with just soiled undies. All released from hospital.

Firetruck barbeued.

Damn

Kingy said:

good one

AussieDJ said:

buffy said:

Update…smoke clearing. This morning it was dark grey in the West, like a thunderstorm, but turned out to be dust. Now clearing from the West and it looks very dark to the East. Melbourne are going to be thrilled that we’ve sent that to them…

Yeah. Thanks.

I just realized I typo-ed that. Dust=smoke in the second sentence. But you are just as welcome to that anyway.

been wetting down upwind with fire hose, watered some agave, the toughest sorts, going down and dead looking, worst year ever

coffee landed

You made me look up the NZ airforce specs.
They have 50 craft including 4 Poseidons which are basically 737s with surveillance and ASM capabilities, 2 Boeing 757s, 5 C-130J Super Hercules which are about to be retired, and various kinds of helicopters and propeller aircraft.

If Wikipedia is right, NZ has not had air combat capability since it retired its Skyhawks 24 years ago.

transition said:

been wetting down upwind with fire hose, watered some agave, the toughest sorts, going down and dead looking, worst year ever

coffee landed

You’ll all be rooned.

dv said:

You made me look up the NZ airforce specs.
They have 50 craft including 4 Poseidons which are basically 737s with surveillance and ASM capabilities, 2 Boeing 757s, 5 C-130J Super Hercules which are about to be retired, and various kinds of helicopters and propeller aircraft.

If Wikipedia is right, NZ has not had air combat capability since it retired its Skyhawks 24 years ago.

Well surely they rely on ANZUS

dv said:

You made me look up the NZ airforce specs.
They have 50 craft including 4 Poseidons which are basically 737s with surveillance and ASM capabilities, 2 Boeing 757s, 5 C-130J Super Hercules which are about to be retired, and various kinds of helicopters and propeller aircraft.

If Wikipedia is right, NZ has not had air combat capability since it retired its Skyhawks 24 years ago.

You know what RNZAF stands for these days?

Royal New Zealand Airline and Freight.

dv said:

You made me look up the NZ airforce specs.
They have 50 craft including 4 Poseidons which are basically 737s with surveillance and ASM capabilities, 2 Boeing 757s, 5 C-130J Super Hercules which are about to be retired, and various kinds of helicopters and propeller aircraft.

If Wikipedia is right, NZ has not had air combat capability since it retired its Skyhawks 24 years ago.

Nobody has tried to invade them for even longer.

party_pants said:

dv said:

You made me look up the NZ airforce specs.
They have 50 craft including 4 Poseidons which are basically 737s with surveillance and ASM capabilities, 2 Boeing 757s, 5 C-130J Super Hercules which are about to be retired, and various kinds of helicopters and propeller aircraft.

If Wikipedia is right, NZ has not had air combat capability since it retired its Skyhawks 24 years ago.

Nobody has tried to invade them for even longer.

Well, it’s about time that was changed

And what better country to do the honours is us …

New Zealand – 100% there for the taking!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUYbI64QHI

link

Backgrounder – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv8bkYKbMo0 – from the Gruen Transfer
another link

dv said:

You made me look up the NZ airforce specs.
They have 50 craft including 4 Poseidons which are basically 737s with surveillance and ASM capabilities, 2 Boeing 757s, 5 C-130J Super Hercules which are about to be retired, and various kinds of helicopters and propeller aircraft.

If Wikipedia is right, NZ has not had air combat capability since it retired its Skyhawks 24 years ago.

Also somehow North Korea’s airforce has three NZ-manufactured PAC P-750 XSTOL, obtained illegally.

AussieDJ said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

You made me look up the NZ airforce specs.
They have 50 craft including 4 Poseidons which are basically 737s with surveillance and ASM capabilities, 2 Boeing 757s, 5 C-130J Super Hercules which are about to be retired, and various kinds of helicopters and propeller aircraft.

If Wikipedia is right, NZ has not had air combat capability since it retired its Skyhawks 24 years ago.

Nobody has tried to invade them for even longer.

Well, it’s about time that was changed

And what better country to do the honours is us …

New Zealand – 100% there for the taking!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUYbI64QHI

link

Backgrounder – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv8bkYKbMo0 – from the Gruen Transfer
another link

I have seen that one before.

But what we are actually doing in practice now is recruiting any likely New Zealanders who see this as a career to Australia,

Anecdotal: about a month before that NZ ship ran aground and sank, a relative was over there doing some contract maintenance on a NZ navy ship that was mothballed. The ship had a skeleton crew whose job it was to turn up each day and be bored shitless. Anyway, he had a couple of young blokes assigned to watch over him and his crew as they worked, they got talking and the main topic was how to move to Australia and get a real job in the Australian navy.

party_pants said:

AussieDJ said:

party_pants said:

Nobody has tried to invade them for even longer.

Well, it’s about time that was changed

And what better country to do the honours is us …

New Zealand – 100% there for the taking!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUYbI64QHI

link

Backgrounder – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv8bkYKbMo0 – from the Gruen Transfer
another link

I have seen that one before.

But what we are actually doing in practice now is recruiting any likely New Zealanders who see this as a career to Australia,

Anecdotal: about a month before that NZ ship ran aground and sank, a relative was over there doing some contract maintenance on a NZ navy ship that was mothballed. The ship had a skeleton crew whose job it was to turn up each day and be bored shitless. Anyway, he had a couple of young blokes assigned to watch over him and his crew as they worked, they got talking and the main topic was how to move to Australia and get a real job in the Australian navy.

Well they weren’t going to get that in NZ.

Good morning Holidayers. Still dark here. Presently 19 degrees at the back door, no wind. We are forecast 38 degrees, shower or two, possible storm. Winds N to NE. So probably smoky again here, although not at the moment.

No particular plans for today. I’ve got some photos that need to be backed up to the external storage. I probably should do that.

Where have you all been?!

buffy said:

Where have you all been?!

everywhere. i’ve been everywhere, man.

ABC article on cooking oils

No mention of peanut oil.

mum would have been 104 today.

Morning pilgrims, only a small turnout at early mass this morning, it’s relatively cool this morning.
Most of them probably stayed in bed rogering.
Over.

Boris said:

mum would have been 104 today.

but she travelled too quickly and she’s now 94 instead

buffy said:

ABC article on cooking oils

No mention of peanut oil.

because

Using a smaller number of versatile cooking oils can help you save precious pantry real estate and money.

We asked experts about the essential cooking oils in their kitchen, and how to make the most of them with taste, budget and health in mind.

Olive oil

they should have stopped there

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

ABC article on cooking oils

No mention of peanut oil.

because

Using a smaller number of versatile cooking oils can help you save precious pantry real estate and money.

We asked experts about the essential cooking oils in their kitchen, and how to make the most of them with taste, budget and health in mind.

Olive oil

they should have stopped there

I use olive oil but for wok cooking peanut is better because of the higher smoke point.

And the smoke is rolling in here again. Not too bad just yet. We noticed little bits of ash falling this morning too. Just reached 30 degrees.

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

ABC article on cooking oils

No mention of peanut oil.

because

Using a smaller number of versatile cooking oils can help you save precious pantry real estate and money.

We asked experts about the essential cooking oils in their kitchen, and how to make the most of them with taste, budget and health in mind.

Olive oil

they should have stopped there

Nah. I’d prefer to use Macadamia.

buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

ABC article on cooking oils

No mention of peanut oil.

because

Using a smaller number of versatile cooking oils can help you save precious pantry real estate and money.

We asked experts about the essential cooking oils in their kitchen, and how to make the most of them with taste, budget and health in mind.

Olive oil

they should have stopped there

I use olive oil but for wok cooking peanut is better because of the higher smoke point.

Rice Bran oil has a higher smoke point?

buffy said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

ABC article on cooking oils

No mention of peanut oil.

because

Using a smaller number of versatile cooking oils can help you save precious pantry real estate and money.

We asked experts about the essential cooking oils in their kitchen, and how to make the most of them with taste, budget and health in mind.

Olive oil

they should have stopped there

I use olive oil but for wok cooking peanut is better because of the higher smoke point.

I use rice bran oil in the wok – it’s cheap, neutral-flavoured and has a very high smoke point.

Olive oil for Mediterranean and middle-eastern cooking, I believe.

Sesame oil and mustard seed oil I use as flavouring garnishes for Chinese and Indian cooking respectively. (Both are excellent as an eighth of a teaspoon per bowl on soups.)

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I’ve only seen a few small half pineapples in Woolies lately and haven’t bothered to buy them.

I think I’ll go and turn on the soaker hose up near the back fence and then, as i got up before 6.00am, I might go and have my “Sunday Sleep-in” now for an hour or so.

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I also dislike not being given a url so i can easily go to that page and read the article.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I’ve only seen a few small half pineapples in Woolies lately and haven’t bothered to buy them.

Yeah, the small ones should only be a dollar or two but they are as dear as the big ones.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I’ve only seen a few small half pineapples in Woolies lately and haven’t bothered to buy them.

There was that viral video about eating pineapples by picking off each one of the ‘lumps’ and eating the flesh… we tried it, it wasn’t as successful as they made out.

buffy said:

I think I’ll go and turn on the soaker hose up near the back fence and then, as i got up before 6.00am, I might go and have my “Sunday Sleep-in” now for an hour or so.

Thanks for reminding me. I’ve already had the sleep-in but haven’t turned a hose on yet.

It is still only 30 degrees but it will be 39 again before long

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I also dislike not being given a url so i can easily go to that page and read the article.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2025-02-02/australian-pineapples-face-flatlining-sales-due-to-inconvenience/104870394

Arts said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I’ve only seen a few small half pineapples in Woolies lately and haven’t bothered to buy them.

There was that viral video about eating pineapples by picking off each one of the ‘lumps’ and eating the flesh… we tried it, it wasn’t as successful as they made out.

Aint never seen that one.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

buffy said:

I’ve only seen a few small half pineapples in Woolies lately and haven’t bothered to buy them.

There was that viral video about eating pineapples by picking off each one of the ‘lumps’ and eating the flesh… we tried it, it wasn’t as successful as they made out.

Aint never seen that one.

How to correctly eat a pineapple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBRtNTpupM

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

There was that viral video about eating pineapples by picking off each one of the ‘lumps’ and eating the flesh… we tried it, it wasn’t as successful as they made out.

Aint never seen that one.

How to correctly eat a pineapple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBRtNTpupM

ta.

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

There was that viral video about eating pineapples by picking off each one of the ‘lumps’ and eating the flesh… we tried it, it wasn’t as successful as they made out.

Aint never seen that one.

How to correctly eat a pineapple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBRtNTpupM

Looks cool. I might try it when I can afford a pineapple.

roughbarked said:

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Aint never seen that one.

How to correctly eat a pineapple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBRtNTpupM

Looks cool. I might try it when I can afford a pineapple.

Though that girl must have hands made of leather and the wrist strength of a weight lifter.

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I also dislike not being given a url so i can easily go to that page and read the article.

Well look at little Miss Complainy-Pants…

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I think I’ll go and turn on the soaker hose up near the back fence and then, as i got up before 6.00am, I might go and have my “Sunday Sleep-in” now for an hour or so.

Thanks for reminding me. I’ve already had the sleep-in but haven’t turned a hose on yet.

It is still only 30 degrees but it will be 39 again before long

We’ve hit 34. With smoke. But it is still. Lots of noisy little birds in the backyard, I think they are pardalottes, I can’t see them. The maggies have not yet taken over the big dishes in the front yard, but I’ll bet if someone else wants to use them they will arrive.

Some photos of the first fire area (before Christmas) in the Grampians on the Victorian field naturalist’s Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10225480752675482&set=pcb.10225480787996365

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I think I’ll go and turn on the soaker hose up near the back fence and then, as i got up before 6.00am, I might go and have my “Sunday Sleep-in” now for an hour or so.

Thanks for reminding me. I’ve already had the sleep-in but haven’t turned a hose on yet.

It is still only 30 degrees but it will be 39 again before long

We’ve hit 34. With smoke. But it is still. Lots of noisy little birds in the backyard, I think they are pardalottes, I can’t see them. The maggies have not yet taken over the big dishes in the front yard, but I’ll bet if someone else wants to use them they will arrive.

Some photos of the first fire area (before Christmas) in the Grampians on the Victorian field naturalist’s Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10225480752675482&set=pcb.10225480787996365

You need to go through the photos. The first couple are south of the burnt bit.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I also dislike not being given a url so i can easily go to that page and read the article.

Well look at little Miss Complainy-Pants…

Ooo…might be time to make some popcorn!

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

We had a huge, super-ripe home-grown pineapple recently. I intend to dedicate a new garden bed to pineapple-and-pigface-growing later in the year.

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

What is this tool you speak of?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

I also dislike not being given a url so i can easily go to that page and read the article.

Well look at little Miss Complainy-Pants…

it’s sunday.

Michael V said:

What is this tool you speak of?

witty.

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I think I’ll go and turn on the soaker hose up near the back fence and then, as i got up before 6.00am, I might go and have my “Sunday Sleep-in” now for an hour or so.

Thanks for reminding me. I’ve already had the sleep-in but haven’t turned a hose on yet.

It is still only 30 degrees but it will be 39 again before long

We’ve hit 34. With smoke. But it is still. Lots of noisy little birds in the backyard, I think they are pardalottes, I can’t see them. The maggies have not yet taken over the big dishes in the front yard, but I’ll bet if someone else wants to use them they will arrive.

Some photos of the first fire area (before Christmas) in the Grampians on the Victorian field naturalist’s Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10225480752675482&set=pcb.10225480787996365

Very unexciting here. 21° & 288mm of rain this month.

I’m looking forward to tomorrow at around 1600hr. getting some oats laced with a virus.

Boris said:

Michael V said:

What is this tool you speak of?

witty.

Of which you speak is correct grammatically.

Michael V said:

We had a huge, super-ripe home-grown pineapple recently. I intend to dedicate a new garden bed to pineapple-and-pigface-growing later in the year.

Out of interest, what species of Carpobrotus do you grow, and what parts of the plant do you eat?

Tamb said:

Boris said:

Michael V said:

What is this tool you speak of?

witty.

Of which you speak is correct grammatically.

I tries me best.

Boris said:

Michael V said:

What is this tool you speak of?

witty.

LOL

Tamb said:

Boris said:

Michael V said:

What is this tool you speak of?

witty.

Of which you speak is correct grammatically.

I prefer the shorter version that everybody seems to understand.

Boris said:

Tamb said:

Boris said:

witty.

Of which you speak is correct grammatically.

I tries me best.

A noble effort indeed.

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Boris said:

witty.

Of which you speak is correct grammatically.

I prefer the shorter version that everybody seems to understand.

A preposition at the end of a sentence? This is gross impertinence, up with which I will not put!

btm said:

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Of which you speak is correct grammatically.

I prefer the shorter version that everybody seems to understand.

A preposition at the end of a sentence? This is gross impertinence, up with which I will not put!

Thank you Mr Churchill.

Tamb said:

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks for reminding me. I’ve already had the sleep-in but haven’t turned a hose on yet.

It is still only 30 degrees but it will be 39 again before long

We’ve hit 34. With smoke. But it is still. Lots of noisy little birds in the backyard, I think they are pardalottes, I can’t see them. The maggies have not yet taken over the big dishes in the front yard, but I’ll bet if someone else wants to use them they will arrive.

Some photos of the first fire area (before Christmas) in the Grampians on the Victorian field naturalist’s Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10225480752675482&set=pcb.10225480787996365

Very unexciting here. 21° & 288mm of rain this month.

Popped in to see how you were going, and it seems my place is getting more than you…
“February 2025 Total 544.6 2 day(s)”

Waiting for the wind and rain to ease off so I can get some photos of the river.

Tamb said:

btm said:

Michael V said:

I prefer the shorter version that everybody seems to understand.

A preposition at the end of a sentence? This is gross impertinence, up with which I will not put!

Thank you Mr Churchill.

It (almost certainly) wasn’t Churchill, but its origins are lost.

Dark Orange said:

Tamb said:

buffy said:

We’ve hit 34. With smoke. But it is still. Lots of noisy little birds in the backyard, I think they are pardalottes, I can’t see them. The maggies have not yet taken over the big dishes in the front yard, but I’ll bet if someone else wants to use them they will arrive.

Some photos of the first fire area (before Christmas) in the Grampians on the Victorian field naturalist’s Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10225480752675482&set=pcb.10225480787996365

Very unexciting here. 21° & 288mm of rain this month.

Popped in to see how you were going, and it seems my place is getting more than you…
“February 2025 Total 544.6 2 day(s)”

Waiting for the wind and rain to ease off so I can get some photos of the river.

That’s quite impressive.

btm said:

Tamb said:

btm said:

A preposition at the end of a sentence? This is gross impertinence, up with which I will not put!

Thank you Mr Churchill.

It (almost certainly) wasn’t Churchill, but its origins are lost.

Yes.

btm said:

Michael V said:

We had a huge, super-ripe home-grown pineapple recently. I intend to dedicate a new garden bed to pineapple-and-pigface-growing later in the year.

Out of interest, what species of Carpobrotus do you grow, and what parts of the plant do you eat?

I assume it is Carpobrotus glaucescens. We got the original piece of plant (cutting) from the shallow dune above the beach here, so it’s only 1 km from itss native habitat. It took some years to establish. We eat the leaves and occasionally some bits of stem. I’ve not yet tried the flowers or fruit, although I understand they are edible. We recently transplanted some to the verge-garden, under the Poinciana tree and it’s growing very well there.

“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_glaucescens:“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_glaucescens

Tamb said:

Dark Orange said:

Tamb said:

Very unexciting here. 21° & 288mm of rain this month.

Popped in to see how you were going, and it seems my place is getting more than you…
“February 2025 Total 544.6 2 day(s)”

Waiting for the wind and rain to ease off so I can get some photos of the river.

That’s quite impressive.

…and they predict at least a few more days of it.

btm said:

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Of which you speak is correct grammatically.

I prefer the shorter version that everybody seems to understand.

A preposition at the end of a sentence? This is gross impertinence, up with which I will not put!

LOL

btm said:

Tamb said:

btm said:

A preposition at the end of a sentence? This is gross impertinence, up with which I will not put!

Thank you Mr Churchill.

It (almost certainly) wasn’t Churchill, but its origins are lost.

Yoda.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

What is this tool you speak of?

Boris said:

I’m looking forward to tomorrow at around 1600hr. getting some oats laced with a virus.

Why?

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

I’m looking forward to tomorrow at around 1600hr. getting some oats laced with a virus.

Why?

I am hopeful of a significant rabbit cull.

Michael V said:

btm said:

Michael V said:

We had a huge, super-ripe home-grown pineapple recently. I intend to dedicate a new garden bed to pineapple-and-pigface-growing later in the year.

Out of interest, what species of Carpobrotus do you grow, and what parts of the plant do you eat?

I assume it is Carpobrotus glaucescens. We got the original piece of plant (cutting) from the shallow dune above the beach here, so it’s only 1 km from itss native habitat. It took some years to establish. We eat the leaves and occasionally some bits of stem. I’ve not yet tried the flowers or fruit, although I understand they are edible. We recently transplanted some to the verge-garden, under the Poinciana tree and it’s growing very well there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_glaucescens

Do you cook the leaves before eating them? It sounds very salty. There’s a lot of it (though probably a different species – I’m in country Victoria) growing around here; we used to use its sap as a treatment for minor skin lesions when we were children, but I’ve never eaten it.

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

I’m looking forward to tomorrow at around 1600hr. getting some oats laced with a virus.

Why?

I am hopeful of a significant rabbit cull.

Kewl. I need one for hares.

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Why?

I am hopeful of a significant rabbit cull.

Kewl. I need one for hares.

But does yours specifically ONLY kill rabbits?

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

I reckon it is the price of them. I’ve got a pineappple slicer that takes the whole pineapple out of it’s tough hide, in ready made spiral slices. I don’t buy them when the price is too high. Otherwise I love pineapples and regularly buy them when it is value for money.

What is this tool you speak of?

Ta.

Archaeologists find ‘lost’ site depicted in the Bayeux Tapestry

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Why?

I am hopeful of a significant rabbit cull.

Kewl. I need one for hares.

I pulled a hair out of my arse yesterday.

Have been moving books around recently, and have decided that now is probably a good time to offload a few.

Anybody want a copy of this?
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/plants-prey-australia/author/rica-erickson/

…or this? (signed by the authors)
https://www.nokomis.com.au/product/new-books/birds/passerine-birds/birds-of-paradise-nature-art-and-history/

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

What is this tool you speak of?

Ta.

Cheap as chips and a forever tool as long as you wash it after use and put it back in the box, like I do.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

I am hopeful of a significant rabbit cull.

Kewl. I need one for hares.

I pulled a hair out of my arse yesterday.

winces.

Dark Orange said:

Have been moving books around recently, and have decided that now is probably a good time to offload a few.

Anybody want a copy of this?
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/plants-prey-australia/author/rica-erickson/

…or this? (signed by the authors)
https://www.nokomis.com.au/product/new-books/birds/passerine-birds/birds-of-paradise-nature-art-and-history/

Have you still got the same email address?

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

I am hopeful of a significant rabbit cull.

Kewl. I need one for hares.

I pulled a hair out of my arse yesterday.

I pulled a rabbit out of my hat.

btm said:

Michael V said:

btm said:

Out of interest, what species of Carpobrotus do you grow, and what parts of the plant do you eat?

I assume it is Carpobrotus glaucescens. We got the original piece of plant (cutting) from the shallow dune above the beach here, so it’s only 1 km from itss native habitat. It took some years to establish. We eat the leaves and occasionally some bits of stem. I’ve not yet tried the flowers or fruit, although I understand they are edible. We recently transplanted some to the verge-garden, under the Poinciana tree and it’s growing very well there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_glaucescens

Do you cook the leaves before eating them? It sounds very salty. There’s a lot of it (though probably a different species – I’m in country Victoria) growing around here; we used to use its sap as a treatment for minor skin lesions when we were children, but I’ve never eaten it.

Generally we do cook the leaves, although I have eaten them raw. There’s no noticeable difference in texture between cooked and raw. The fluid that dribbles out is somewhat slimy (like Ceylon Spinach – a mucilaginous texture), but I don’t find that aspect annoying.

Yes they are noticeably salty. But as a meal component, that’s not a problem. And as a fresh snack it isn’t either. I imagine that it’s healthier than packet potato chips.

Dark Orange said:

Have been moving books around recently, and have decided that now is probably a good time to offload a few.

Anybody want a copy of this?
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/plants-prey-australia/author/rica-erickson/

…or this? (signed by the authors)
https://www.nokomis.com.au/product/new-books/birds/passerine-birds/birds-of-paradise-nature-art-and-history/

I’d definitely like the first one; I collect carnivorous plants. My email is kariwitchet at proton dot me

Michael V said:

btm said:

Michael V said:

I assume it is Carpobrotus glaucescens. We got the original piece of plant (cutting) from the shallow dune above the beach here, so it’s only 1 km from itss native habitat. It took some years to establish. We eat the leaves and occasionally some bits of stem. I’ve not yet tried the flowers or fruit, although I understand they are edible. We recently transplanted some to the verge-garden, under the Poinciana tree and it’s growing very well there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_glaucescens

Do you cook the leaves before eating them? It sounds very salty. There’s a lot of it (though probably a different species – I’m in country Victoria) growing around here; we used to use its sap as a treatment for minor skin lesions when we were children, but I’ve never eaten it.

Generally we do cook the leaves, although I have eaten them raw. There’s no noticeable difference in texture between cooked and raw. The fluid that dribbles out is somewhat slimy (like Ceylon Spinach – a mucilaginous texture), but I don’t find that aspect annoying.

Yes they are noticeably salty. But as a meal component, that’s not a problem. And as a fresh snack it isn’t either. I imagine that it’s healthier than packet potato chips.

Yes. Even the low salt chips.

Portulaca oleracea is everywhere here and nice to eat, less salty.
I eat Atriplex nummularia raw and it is salty.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

I am hopeful of a significant rabbit cull.

Kewl. I need one for hares.

But does yours specifically ONLY kill rabbits?

we are getting the RHDV1 K5 variant of the virus and I don’t believe it affects hares. I think some other variants do but whether they are available I don’t know.

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Kewl. I need one for hares.

But does yours specifically ONLY kill rabbits?

we are getting the RHDV1 K5 variant of the virus and I don’t believe it affects hares. I think some other variants do but whether they are available I don’t know.

Thanks.

Michael V said:

btm said:

Michael V said:

I assume it is Carpobrotus glaucescens. We got the original piece of plant (cutting) from the shallow dune above the beach here, so it’s only 1 km from itss native habitat. It took some years to establish. We eat the leaves and occasionally some bits of stem. I’ve not yet tried the flowers or fruit, although I understand they are edible. We recently transplanted some to the verge-garden, under the Poinciana tree and it’s growing very well there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_glaucescens

Do you cook the leaves before eating them? It sounds very salty. There’s a lot of it (though probably a different species – I’m in country Victoria) growing around here; we used to use its sap as a treatment for minor skin lesions when we were children, but I’ve never eaten it.

Generally we do cook the leaves, although I have eaten them raw. There’s no noticeable difference in texture between cooked and raw. The fluid that dribbles out is somewhat slimy (like Ceylon Spinach – a mucilaginous texture), but I don’t find that aspect annoying.

Yes they are noticeably salty. But as a meal component, that’s not a problem. And as a fresh snack it isn’t either. I imagine that it’s healthier than packet potato chips.

This one is native to my area but mostly killed off by stock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disphyma_crassifolium_subsp._clavellatum

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

btm said:

Do you cook the leaves before eating them? It sounds very salty. There’s a lot of it (though probably a different species – I’m in country Victoria) growing around here; we used to use its sap as a treatment for minor skin lesions when we were children, but I’ve never eaten it.

Generally we do cook the leaves, although I have eaten them raw. There’s no noticeable difference in texture between cooked and raw. The fluid that dribbles out is somewhat slimy (like Ceylon Spinach – a mucilaginous texture), but I don’t find that aspect annoying.

Yes they are noticeably salty. But as a meal component, that’s not a problem. And as a fresh snack it isn’t either. I imagine that it’s healthier than packet potato chips.

Yes. Even the low salt chips.

Portulaca oleracea is everywhere here and nice to eat, less salty.
I eat Atriplex nummularia raw and it is salty.

I like pigface to eat, both fresh and cooked. It tastes different morning and evening. I’ve not had any luck cultivating it. It comes up from time to time. It is not cut-and-come-again, though.

I’ve not tried to grow saltbush, but it may grow here.

Another local native is midyim berry. I had two plants, but they died.

Lemon Aspen grows locally too, and has a nice fruit. The council has one on the common. The fruit should be ripe soon…

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

But does yours specifically ONLY kill rabbits?

we are getting the RHDV1 K5 variant of the virus and I don’t believe it affects hares. I think some other variants do but whether they are available I don’t know.

Thanks.

RHDV2 affects hares.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

btm said:

Do you cook the leaves before eating them? It sounds very salty. There’s a lot of it (though probably a different species – I’m in country Victoria) growing around here; we used to use its sap as a treatment for minor skin lesions when we were children, but I’ve never eaten it.

Generally we do cook the leaves, although I have eaten them raw. There’s no noticeable difference in texture between cooked and raw. The fluid that dribbles out is somewhat slimy (like Ceylon Spinach – a mucilaginous texture), but I don’t find that aspect annoying.

Yes they are noticeably salty. But as a meal component, that’s not a problem. And as a fresh snack it isn’t either. I imagine that it’s healthier than packet potato chips.

This one is native to my area but mostly killed off by stock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disphyma_crassifolium_subsp._clavellatum

I remember that pigface from when I was a kid in Wagga. It was relatively common in people’s gardens.

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

we are getting the RHDV1 K5 variant of the virus and I don’t believe it affects hares. I think some other variants do but whether they are available I don’t know.

Thanks.

RHDV2 affects hares.

Thanks. Now where do I get it?

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks.

RHDV2 affects hares.

Thanks. Now where do I get it?

ask your local council’s environment officer is all i can suggest.

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

RHDV2 affects hares.

Thanks. Now where do I get it?

ask your local council’s environment officer is all i can suggest.

Ta.

Irish hare is susceptible to lethal RHDV2 infection, and that spillover infection to hares is geographically widespread in eastern areas of Ireland at least, but there is a paucity of data on epidemiology and population impacts. A literature review on RHD impact in closely related Lepus species suggests that intraspecific transmission, spillover transmission, and variable mortality occur in hares, but there is variability in reported resistance to severe disease and mortality amongst species. Several key questions on the impact of the pathogen in Irish hares remain. Surveillance activities throughout the island of Ireland will be important in understanding the spread of infection in this novel host.

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Have been moving books around recently, and have decided that now is probably a good time to offload a few.

Anybody want a copy of this?
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/plants-prey-australia/author/rica-erickson/

…or this? (signed by the authors)
https://www.nokomis.com.au/product/new-books/birds/passerine-birds/birds-of-paradise-nature-art-and-history/

Have you still got the same email address?

Indeedie I do. :)

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

roughbarked said:

Thanks. Now where do I get it?

ask your local council’s environment officer is all i can suggest.

Ta.

Irish hare is susceptible to lethal RHDV2 infection, and that spillover infection to hares is geographically widespread in eastern areas of Ireland at least, but there is a paucity of data on epidemiology and population impacts. A literature review on RHD impact in closely related Lepus species suggests that intraspecific transmission, spillover transmission, and variable mortality occur in hares, but there is variability in reported resistance to severe disease and mortality amongst species. Several key questions on the impact of the pathogen in Irish hares remain. Surveillance activities throughout the island of Ireland will be important in understanding the spread of infection in this novel host.

The above from: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8953227/

and this from: https://veterinaryresearch.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13567-017-0473-y

HDV2-infected hares show very similar clinical signs to those induced by European brown hare syndrome (EBHS): hyperaemic trachea sometimes containing uncoagulated blood, hepatitis necrosis, splenomegaly and congestion of the other organs and tissues . EBHS was first described in 1980 and is caused by another lagovirus called EBHSV, which is known to infect and cause disease in several hares species (L. europaeus, L. timidus and L. corsicanus). In the European hare (L. europaeus), some cases of hares showing lesions similar to EBHS (EBHS-like disease) caused by RHDV2 were reported in Italy in 2012, in Spain in 2014 and in Australia in 2016 . To date it is unclear whether RHDV2 may cause outbreaks in hare populations. Indeed, Velarde et al. described sporadic cases in Italy (one hare) and Spain (two hares) and the data recorded in Australia do not indicate whether the five positive hares correspond to outbreaks or to spillover events .

Assessing the spreading level of RHDV2 into hare species, and especially L. europaeus, is an important issue because it may have significant epidemiological and evolutionary implications in areas where European hares are widespread like France for instance. For example, a large-scale spread into hare populations would increase the probability of recombination events between RHDV2 and EBHSV. It would also change the spatial structure of RHDV2 host population, which is known to influence the evolution of pathogens .

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Have been moving books around recently, and have decided that now is probably a good time to offload a few.

Anybody want a copy of this?
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/plants-prey-australia/author/rica-erickson/

…or this? (signed by the authors)
https://www.nokomis.com.au/product/new-books/birds/passerine-birds/birds-of-paradise-nature-art-and-history/

Have you still got the same email address?

Indeedie I do. :)

I’ll dig through my emails for it. ‘)

btm said:

Dark Orange said:

Have been moving books around recently, and have decided that now is probably a good time to offload a few.

Anybody want a copy of this?
https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/plants-prey-australia/author/rica-erickson/

…or this? (signed by the authors)
https://www.nokomis.com.au/product/new-books/birds/passerine-birds/birds-of-paradise-nature-art-and-history/

I’d definitely like the first one; I collect carnivorous plants. My email is kariwitchet at proton dot me

email sent :)

Michael V said:

btm said:

Michael V said:

I assume it is Carpobrotus glaucescens. We got the original piece of plant (cutting) from the shallow dune above the beach here, so it’s only 1 km from itss native habitat. It took some years to establish. We eat the leaves and occasionally some bits of stem. I’ve not yet tried the flowers or fruit, although I understand they are edible. We recently transplanted some to the verge-garden, under the Poinciana tree and it’s growing very well there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus_glaucescens

Do you cook the leaves before eating them? It sounds very salty. There’s a lot of it (though probably a different species – I’m in country Victoria) growing around here; we used to use its sap as a treatment for minor skin lesions when we were children, but I’ve never eaten it.

Generally we do cook the leaves, although I have eaten them raw. There’s no noticeable difference in texture between cooked and raw. The fluid that dribbles out is somewhat slimy (like Ceylon Spinach – a mucilaginous texture), but I don’t find that aspect annoying.

Yes they are noticeably salty. But as a meal component, that’s not a problem. And as a fresh snack it isn’t either. I imagine that it’s healthier than packet potato chips.

I had always wondered how edible they were. Will look more into that – thanks :)

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Have you still got the same email address?

Indeedie I do. :)

I’ll dig through my emails for it. ‘)

miketz at the gmail place.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Kewl. I need one for hares.

I pulled a hair out of my arse yesterday.

winces.

Does obvious Hairy Coecum joke.

Queensland Premier David Crisafulli confirmed a woman died in floodwaters in Ingham, around 100km from Townsville, after an SES rescue boat capsized around 9.20am today.
The woman was travelling with an SES crew on the boat when it struck a tree on Rutledge Street and flipped.“

Oof. https://apple.news/AfhhK8G92RnCY0_KSqq7qxQ

Nine news but through my app

Arts said:

Queensland Premier David Crisafulli confirmed a woman died in floodwaters in Ingham, around 100km from Townsville, after an SES rescue boat capsized around 9.20am today.
The woman was travelling with an SES crew on the boat when it struck a tree on Rutledge Street and flipped.“

Oof. https://apple.news/AfhhK8G92RnCY0_KSqq7qxQ

Nine news but through my app

Bugger. :(
Still pissing down here.

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Just do what I tell you all and things will be jake.

Arts said:

Queensland Premier David Crisafulli confirmed a woman died in floodwaters in Ingham, around 100km from Townsville, after an SES rescue boat capsized around 9.20am today.
The woman was travelling with an SES crew on the boat when it struck a tree on Rutledge Street and flipped.“

Oof. https://apple.news/AfhhK8G92RnCY0_KSqq7qxQ

Nine news but through my app

Bugger.

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It’s a reasonable propose.

Don’t kill it.

Arts said:

Queensland Premier David Crisafulli confirmed a woman died in floodwaters in Ingham, around 100km from Townsville, after an SES rescue boat capsized around 9.20am today.
The woman was travelling with an SES crew on the boat when it struck a tree on Rutledge Street and flipped.“

Oof. https://apple.news/AfhhK8G92RnCY0_KSqq7qxQ

Nine news but through my app

Damn

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Generally we do cook the leaves, although I have eaten them raw. There’s no noticeable difference in texture between cooked and raw. The fluid that dribbles out is somewhat slimy (like Ceylon Spinach – a mucilaginous texture), but I don’t find that aspect annoying.

Yes they are noticeably salty. But as a meal component, that’s not a problem. And as a fresh snack it isn’t either. I imagine that it’s healthier than packet potato chips.

Yes. Even the low salt chips.

Portulaca oleracea is everywhere here and nice to eat, less salty.
I eat Atriplex nummularia raw and it is salty.

I like pigface to eat, both fresh and cooked. It tastes different morning and evening. I’ve not had any luck cultivating it. It comes up from time to time. It is not cut-and-come-again, though.

I’ve not tried to grow saltbush, but it may grow here.

Another local native is midyim berry. I had two plants, but they died.

Lemon Aspen grows locally too, and has a nice fruit. The council has one on the common. The fruit should be ripe soon…

I’ve got a midyim berry bush. Well, when I say bush…sprawler really. It’s only about 18 months old – got it from Diggers. It’s in flower at the moment. I can’t tell if it’s setting fruit yet. I’ve never eaten them. I’m curious.

dv said:

Arts said:

Queensland Premier David Crisafulli confirmed a woman died in floodwaters in Ingham, around 100km from Townsville, after an SES rescue boat capsized around 9.20am today.
The woman was travelling with an SES crew on the boat when it struck a tree on Rutledge Street and flipped.“

Oof. https://apple.news/AfhhK8G92RnCY0_KSqq7qxQ

Nine news but through my app

Damn

Ah well it’s fucked but not as fucked up getting medical retrieved and then making like an Israeli air strike on Philadelphia.

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I ain’t reading all that

buffy said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Yes. Even the low salt chips.

Portulaca oleracea is everywhere here and nice to eat, less salty.
I eat Atriplex nummularia raw and it is salty.

I like pigface to eat, both fresh and cooked. It tastes different morning and evening. I’ve not had any luck cultivating it. It comes up from time to time. It is not cut-and-come-again, though.

I’ve not tried to grow saltbush, but it may grow here.

Another local native is midyim berry. I had two plants, but they died.

Lemon Aspen grows locally too, and has a nice fruit. The council has one on the common. The fruit should be ripe soon…

I’ve got a midyim berry bush. Well, when I say bush…sprawler really. It’s only about 18 months old – got it from Diggers. It’s in flower at the moment. I can’t tell if it’s setting fruit yet. I’ve never eaten them. I’m curious.

I think they are nice. The council has planted them around the library and Community Centre building. I harvest them when I see them ripe.

I have found them in the wild at Inskip, a few km north of us.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

I like pigface to eat, both fresh and cooked. It tastes different morning and evening. I’ve not had any luck cultivating it. It comes up from time to time. It is not cut-and-come-again, though.

I’ve not tried to grow saltbush, but it may grow here.

Another local native is midyim berry. I had two plants, but they died.

Lemon Aspen grows locally too, and has a nice fruit. The council has one on the common. The fruit should be ripe soon…

I’ve got a midyim berry bush. Well, when I say bush…sprawler really. It’s only about 18 months old – got it from Diggers. It’s in flower at the moment. I can’t tell if it’s setting fruit yet. I’ve never eaten them. I’m curious.

I think they are nice. The council has planted them around the library and Community Centre building. I harvest them when I see them ripe.

I have found them in the wild at Inskip, a few km north of us.

How big are the berries? And how do you tell when they are ripe?

Dark Orange said:

Tamb said:

buffy said:

We’ve hit 34. With smoke. But it is still. Lots of noisy little birds in the backyard, I think they are pardalottes, I can’t see them. The maggies have not yet taken over the big dishes in the front yard, but I’ll bet if someone else wants to use them they will arrive.

Some photos of the first fire area (before Christmas) in the Grampians on the Victorian field naturalist’s Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10225480752675482&set=pcb.10225480787996365

Very unexciting here. 21° & 288mm of rain this month.

Popped in to see how you were going, and it seems my place is getting more than you…
“February 2025 Total 544.6 2 day(s)”

Waiting for the wind and rain to ease off so I can get some photos of the river.

Incy Wincy Spider is currently furloughed.

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I ain’t reading all that

well wer still happy for u even tho wer sorry it didn’t happen

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I ain’t reading all that

Just click “I accept” and move on.

If only there was some way of harvesting all that water and redirecting it inland.

party_pants said:

If only there was some way of harvesting all that water and redirecting it inland.

Queensland’s Liberal National Party has thrown its support behind a reimagined plan to take “excess” floodwater from north Queensland, to provide drought-relief in western and southern parts of the state.

Known as the New Bradfield Scheme, it is based on an original plan from the 1930s, to divert floodwaters from the north down to Lake Eyre, using dams, pumps and pipes.

Tellingly, the original Bradfield Scheme never got off the ground, with governments over the generations rejecting its viability on economic, scientific and engineering grounds.

But the LNP is hoping its revitalised plan will be a vote winner and offer a “vision for the future” heading into next year’s state election.

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

If only there was some way of harvesting all that water and redirecting it inland.

Queensland’s Liberal National Party has thrown its support behind a reimagined plan to take “excess” floodwater from north Queensland, to provide drought-relief in western and southern parts of the state.

Known as the New Bradfield Scheme, it is based on an original plan from the 1930s, to divert floodwaters from the north down to Lake Eyre, using dams, pumps and pipes.

Tellingly, the original Bradfield Scheme never got off the ground, with governments over the generations rejecting its viability on economic, scientific and engineering grounds.

But the LNP is hoping its revitalised plan will be a vote winner and offer a “vision for the future” heading into next year’s state election.

oh yeah we discussed this here the other day

Proposed uses for nuclear explosives under Project Plowshare included widening the Panama Canal, constructing a new sea-level waterway through Nicaragua nicknamed the Pan-Atomic Canal, cutting paths through mountainous areas for highways, and connecting inland river systems. Other proposals involved blasting caverns for water, natural gas, and petroleum storage.

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buffy said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

I’ve got a midyim berry bush. Well, when I say bush…sprawler really. It’s only about 18 months old – got it from Diggers. It’s in flower at the moment. I can’t tell if it’s setting fruit yet. I’ve never eaten them. I’m curious.

I think they are nice. The council has planted them around the library and Community Centre building. I harvest them when I see them ripe.

I have found them in the wild at Inskip, a few km north of us.

How big are the berries? And how do you tell when they are ripe?

Slightly smaller than blueberries. If they fall off with a touch (very, very light pull) they are ripe.

Similar flavour to blueberries. More seeds.

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

If only there was some way of harvesting all that water and redirecting it inland.

Queensland’s Liberal National Party has thrown its support behind a reimagined plan to take “excess” floodwater from north Queensland, to provide drought-relief in western and southern parts of the state.

Known as the New Bradfield Scheme, it is based on an original plan from the 1930s, to divert floodwaters from the north down to Lake Eyre, using dams, pumps and pipes.

Tellingly, the original Bradfield Scheme never got off the ground, with governments over the generations rejecting its viability on economic, scientific and engineering grounds.

But the LNP is hoping its revitalised plan will be a vote winner and offer a “vision for the future” heading into next year’s state election.

oh yeah we discussed this here the other day

Proposed uses for nuclear explosives under Project Plowshare included widening the Panama Canal, constructing a new sea-level waterway through Nicaragua nicknamed the Pan-Atomic Canal, cutting paths through mountainous areas for highways, and connecting inland river systems. Other proposals involved blasting caverns for water, natural gas, and petroleum storage.

I remember it being discussed when I was a kid in the 40s/50s.

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

If only there was some way of harvesting all that water and redirecting it inland.

Queensland’s Liberal National Party has thrown its support behind a reimagined plan to take “excess” floodwater from north Queensland, to provide drought-relief in western and southern parts of the state.

Known as the New Bradfield Scheme, it is based on an original plan from the 1930s, to divert floodwaters from the north down to Lake Eyre, using dams, pumps and pipes.

Tellingly, the original Bradfield Scheme never got off the ground, with governments over the generations rejecting its viability on economic, scientific and engineering grounds.

But the LNP is hoping its revitalised plan will be a vote winner and offer a “vision for the future” heading into next year’s state election.

Ummm.

Date? LNP are in power in Qld, IIRC.

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

party_pants said:

If only there was some way of harvesting all that water and redirecting it inland.

Queensland’s Liberal National Party has thrown its support behind a reimagined plan to take “excess” floodwater from north Queensland, to provide drought-relief in western and southern parts of the state.

Known as the New Bradfield Scheme, it is based on an original plan from the 1930s, to divert floodwaters from the north down to Lake Eyre, using dams, pumps and pipes.

Tellingly, the original Bradfield Scheme never got off the ground, with governments over the generations rejecting its viability on economic, scientific and engineering grounds.

But the LNP is hoping its revitalised plan will be a vote winner and offer a “vision for the future” heading into next year’s state election.

Ummm.

Date? LNP are in power in Qld, IIRC.

2019

I see from the ABC news that there has been a smashing and crashing at the car race.

ABC

Dark Orange said:

roughbarked said:

Dark Orange said:

Indeedie I do. :)

I’ll dig through my emails for it. ‘)

miketz at the gmail place.

:)

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Just do what I tell you all and things will be jake.

Yeah, nah.

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Just do what I tell you all and things will be jake.

Yeah, nah.

No hard quiz today?

Boris said:

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Just do what I tell you all and things will be jake.

Does anyone ever ask Jake?

dv said:

Arts said:

Queensland Premier David Crisafulli confirmed a woman died in floodwaters in Ingham, around 100km from Townsville, after an SES rescue boat capsized around 9.20am today.
The woman was travelling with an SES crew on the boat when it struck a tree on Rutledge Street and flipped.“

Oof. https://apple.news/AfhhK8G92RnCY0_KSqq7qxQ

Nine news but through my app

Damn

That’s a tragedy. :(

buffy said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Yes. Even the low salt chips.

Portulaca oleracea is everywhere here and nice to eat, less salty.
I eat Atriplex nummularia raw and it is salty.

I like pigface to eat, both fresh and cooked. It tastes different morning and evening. I’ve not had any luck cultivating it. It comes up from time to time. It is not cut-and-come-again, though.

I’ve not tried to grow saltbush, but it may grow here.

Another local native is midyim berry. I had two plants, but they died.

Lemon Aspen grows locally too, and has a nice fruit. The council has one on the common. The fruit should be ripe soon…

I’ve got a midyim berry bush. Well, when I say bush…sprawler really. It’s only about 18 months old – got it from Diggers. It’s in flower at the moment. I can’t tell if it’s setting fruit yet. I’ve never eaten them. I’m curious.

I’ve got native orange, Capparis mitchellii and native lime, Citrus glauca and I’ve got a dozen or so finger limes, Citrus australasica up from seed. None of them have fruited yet though I’ve had Capparis mitchellii in my garden since 1990. It is stll not as tall as me But I will try pruning it back to a main leader and see if that forces it upward.

Are you ok to get down to Cairns for your treatment Tamb?
Or are you isolated for the time being.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

I think they are nice. The council has planted them around the library and Community Centre building. I harvest them when I see them ripe.

I have found them in the wild at Inskip, a few km north of us.

How big are the berries? And how do you tell when they are ripe?

Slightly smaller than blueberries. If they fall off with a touch (very, very light pull) they are ripe.

Similar flavour to blueberries. More seeds.

Do fruit fly attack them?

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Queensland’s Liberal National Party has thrown its support behind a reimagined plan to take “excess” floodwater from north Queensland, to provide drought-relief in western and southern parts of the state.

Known as the New Bradfield Scheme, it is based on an original plan from the 1930s, to divert floodwaters from the north down to Lake Eyre, using dams, pumps and pipes.

Tellingly, the original Bradfield Scheme never got off the ground, with governments over the generations rejecting its viability on economic, scientific and engineering grounds.

But the LNP is hoping its revitalised plan will be a vote winner and offer a “vision for the future” heading into next year’s state election.

Ummm.

Date? LNP are in power in Qld, IIRC.

2019

I haven’t heard anything more about that plan. Have they abandoned it?

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

Queensland’s Liberal National Party has thrown its support behind a reimagined plan to take “excess” floodwater from north Queensland, to provide drought-relief in western and southern parts of the state.

Known as the New Bradfield Scheme, it is based on an original plan from the 1930s, to divert floodwaters from the north down to Lake Eyre, using dams, pumps and pipes.

Tellingly, the original Bradfield Scheme never got off the ground, with governments over the generations rejecting its viability on economic, scientific and engineering grounds.

But the LNP is hoping its revitalised plan will be a vote winner and offer a “vision for the future” heading into next year’s state election.

oh yeah we discussed this here the other day

Proposed uses for nuclear explosives under Project Plowshare included widening the Panama Canal, constructing a new sea-level waterway through Nicaragua nicknamed the Pan-Atomic Canal, cutting paths through mountainous areas for highways, and connecting inland river systems. Other proposals involved blasting caverns for water, natural gas, and petroleum storage.

I remember it being discussed when I was a kid in the 40s/50s.

Nah. You aren’t that old. ;)

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

I like pigface to eat, both fresh and cooked. It tastes different morning and evening. I’ve not had any luck cultivating it. It comes up from time to time. It is not cut-and-come-again, though.

I’ve not tried to grow saltbush, but it may grow here.

Another local native is midyim berry. I had two plants, but they died.

Lemon Aspen grows locally too, and has a nice fruit. The council has one on the common. The fruit should be ripe soon…

I’ve got a midyim berry bush. Well, when I say bush…sprawler really. It’s only about 18 months old – got it from Diggers. It’s in flower at the moment. I can’t tell if it’s setting fruit yet. I’ve never eaten them. I’m curious.

I’ve got native orange, Capparis mitchellii and native lime, Citrus glauca and I’ve got a dozen or so finger limes, Citrus australasica up from seed. None of them have fruited yet though I’ve had Capparis mitchellii in my garden since 1990. It is stll not as tall as me But I will try pruning it back to a main leader and see if that forces it upward.

I’ve eaten fruit of Capparis mitchellii. They were OK. They grew on the red ridges near my opal mine.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

How big are the berries? And how do you tell when they are ripe?

Slightly smaller than blueberries. If they fall off with a touch (very, very light pull) they are ripe.

Similar flavour to blueberries. More seeds.

Do fruit fly attack them?

Not that I’ve seen with the plantings.

Something else has got to both the bushes and the fruit in the wild.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I’ve got a midyim berry bush. Well, when I say bush…sprawler really. It’s only about 18 months old – got it from Diggers. It’s in flower at the moment. I can’t tell if it’s setting fruit yet. I’ve never eaten them. I’m curious.

I’ve got native orange, Capparis mitchellii and native lime, Citrus glauca and I’ve got a dozen or so finger limes, Citrus australasica up from seed. None of them have fruited yet though I’ve had Capparis mitchellii in my garden since 1990. It is stll not as tall as me But I will try pruning it back to a main leader and see if that forces it upward.

I’ve eaten fruit of Capparis mitchellii. They were OK. They grew on the red ridges near my opal mine.

Yep. I got mine from White Cliffs.

Was your opal miine successful in any way?

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

oh yeah we discussed this here the other day

Proposed uses for nuclear explosives under Project Plowshare included widening the Panama Canal, constructing a new sea-level waterway through Nicaragua nicknamed the Pan-Atomic Canal, cutting paths through mountainous areas for highways, and connecting inland river systems. Other proposals involved blasting caverns for water, natural gas, and petroleum storage.

I remember it being discussed when I was a kid in the 40s/50s.

Nah. You aren’t that old. ;)

Ummm. Tamb is not young, like you.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Slightly smaller than blueberries. If they fall off with a touch (very, very light pull) they are ripe.

Similar flavour to blueberries. More seeds.

Do fruit fly attack them?

Not that I’ve seen with the plantings.

Something else has got to both the bushes and the fruit in the wild.

I see.
This used to be a fruit fly exclusion zone but that has gne the way of much government funding.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

I remember it being discussed when I was a kid in the 40s/50s.

Nah. You aren’t that old. ;)

Ummm. Tamb is not young, like you.

:)yes. My error. I didn’t look at who said it.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve got native orange, Capparis mitchellii and native lime, Citrus glauca and I’ve got a dozen or so finger limes, Citrus australasica up from seed. None of them have fruited yet though I’ve had Capparis mitchellii in my garden since 1990. It is stll not as tall as me But I will try pruning it back to a main leader and see if that forces it upward.

I’ve eaten fruit of Capparis mitchellii. They were OK. They grew on the red ridges near my opal mine.

Yep. I got mine from White Cliffs.

Was your opal mine successful in any way?

I sold a few, but overall, it didn’t even go close to making money. But then, most hobbies don’t. I think of people and their boats for fishing…

Peak Warming Man said:

Are you ok to get down to Cairns for your treatment Tamb?
Or are you isolated for the time being.

Thanks for your concern PWM.
I don’t have to be there until the morning of the 24th. Things should have settled by then.
ATM the tableland is isolated and I have a series of rapids under the clothes line.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I’ve eaten fruit of Capparis mitchellii. They were OK. They grew on the red ridges near my opal mine.

Yep. I got mine from White Cliffs.

Was your opal mine successful in any way?

I sold a few, but overall, it didn’t even go close to making money. But then, most hobbies don’t. I think of people and their boats for fishing…

Yeah but if you were getting opal, there should likely have been more to find.

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Ummm.

Date? LNP are in power in Qld, IIRC.

2019

I haven’t heard anything more about that plan. Have they abandoned it?

That’s usually its fate.

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Are you ok to get down to Cairns for your treatment Tamb?
Or are you isolated for the time being.

Thanks for your concern PWM.
I don’t have to be there until the morning of the 24th. Things should have settled by then.
ATM the tableland is isolated and I have a series of rapids under the clothes line.

If it doesn’t stop raining they’ll have to come to you in a chopper.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

SCIENCE said:

oh yeah we discussed this here the other day

Proposed uses for nuclear explosives under Project Plowshare included widening the Panama Canal, constructing a new sea-level waterway through Nicaragua nicknamed the Pan-Atomic Canal, cutting paths through mountainous areas for highways, and connecting inland river systems. Other proposals involved blasting caverns for water, natural gas, and petroleum storage.

I remember it being discussed when I was a kid in the 40s/50s.

Nah. You aren’t that old. ;)

‘fraid I am.

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

I remember it being discussed when I was a kid in the 40s/50s.

Nah. You aren’t that old. ;)

‘fraid I am.

Yes. I’m but a youngster.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Are you ok to get down to Cairns for your treatment Tamb?
Or are you isolated for the time being.

Thanks for your concern PWM.
I don’t have to be there until the morning of the 24th. Things should have settled by then.
ATM the tableland is isolated and I have a series of rapids under the clothes line.

If it doesn’t stop raining they’ll have to come to you in a chopper.

I might attempt a trip to the shops on Tuesday.

roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Nah. You aren’t that old. ;)

‘fraid I am.

Yes. I’m but a youngster.

I was one of those for a while.

dv said:

No hard quiz today?

don’t look at me I’m the teaser guy.

Boris said:

dv said:

No hard quiz today?

don’t look at me I’m the teaser guy.

I’m the Wordle one.

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Are you ok to get down to Cairns for your treatment Tamb?
Or are you isolated for the time being.

Thanks for your concern PWM.
I don’t have to be there until the morning of the 24th. Things should have settled by then.
ATM the tableland is isolated and I have a series of rapids under the clothes line.

Goodo

dv said:

No hard quiz today?

The Sunday Bevan one that scores out of 50 for 10 questions.
I always give my result out of 10, the proper result not the work experience kids result.

One hit wonders of the seventies.

Peak Warming Man said:

One hit wonders of the seventies.

An artists impression of Mungo Man.

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

One hit wonders of the seventies.

An artists impression of Mungo Man.

He was ugly man.

Still no sign of monkey skipper.

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Are you ok to get down to Cairns for your treatment Tamb?
Or are you isolated for the time being.

Thanks for your concern PWM.
I don’t have to be there until the morning of the 24th. Things should have settled by then.
ATM the tableland is isolated and I have a series of rapids under the clothes line.

Uh-oh.

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Yep. I got mine from White Cliffs.

Was your opal mine successful in any way?

I sold a few, but overall, it didn’t even go close to making money. But then, most hobbies don’t. I think of people and their boats for fishing…

Yeah but if you were getting opal, there should likely have been more to find.

Maybe, but I didn’t have serious money and time to put into it.

That was a good song, but I have never heard of the band.

Peak Warming Man said:

Illuminating, thanks.

Bubblecar said:

Still no sign of monkey skipper.

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

Peak Warming Man said:

One hit wonders of the seventies.

We were talking about that the other day, because it is the biggest selling British single of all time

dv said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I pulled a hair out of my arse yesterday.

winces.

Does obvious Hairy Coecum joke.

Tough sub

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

One hit wonders of the seventies.

We were talking about that the other day, because it is the biggest selling British single of all time

That’s a turn up.

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Still no sign of monkey skipper.

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

I think she only posted once over the festive season, to say she’s been seriously ill in hospital. But I can’t recall if she identified the malady.

Peak Warming Man said:

That song was done by a group session musicians including vocalist Tony Burrows, who was involved in various one-hit wonders under different band names.

Wikipedia explains:

Tony Burrows initially tried to get the single released under his own name but was turned down by the song’s writer and producer Tony Macaulay.

When “Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)” became a hit, a group needed to be assembled rapidly to perform the song on Top of the Pops. The pair found a group called Greenfield Hammer, who appeared on Top of the Pops a week later as “Edison Lighthouse” to mime the fastest-climbing No.1 hit record in history at that point.

hmmm big ASIAN protest outside Exford these days

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Still no sign of monkey skipper.

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

Various people here are Facebook friends with her.

Peak Warming Man said:

One hit wonders of the seventies.

Just the one? What about “Lady Rose”, “Alright Alright Alright” and at a pinch “You Don’t Have To Be In The Army To Fight In The War”..?

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That song was done by a group session musicians including vocalist Tony Burrows, who was involved in various one-hit wonders under different band names.

Wikipedia explains:

Tony Burrows initially tried to get the single released under his own name but was turned down by the song’s writer and producer Tony Macaulay.

When “Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)” became a hit, a group needed to be assembled rapidly to perform the song on Top of the Pops. The pair found a group called Greenfield Hammer, who appeared on Top of the Pops a week later as “Edison Lighthouse” to mime the fastest-climbing No.1 hit record in history at that point.

Well there you go.

kii said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Still no sign of monkey skipper.

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

Various people here are Facebook friends with her.

I’m not Facebook friends with her and I can see that she’s post 6 hours ago.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

That song was done by a group session musicians including vocalist Tony Burrows, who was involved in various one-hit wonders under different band names.

Wikipedia explains:

Tony Burrows initially tried to get the single released under his own name but was turned down by the song’s writer and producer Tony Macaulay.

When “Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)” became a hit, a group needed to be assembled rapidly to perform the song on Top of the Pops. The pair found a group called Greenfield Hammer, who appeared on Top of the Pops a week later as “Edison Lighthouse” to mime the fastest-climbing No.1 hit record in history at that point.

Well there you go.

Burrows claimed he was unofficially banned from appearing on “Top Of The Pops” after appearing in three different bands in one episode.

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Still no sign of monkey skipper.

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

I think she only posted once over the festive season, to say she’s been seriously ill in hospital. But I can’t recall if she identified the malady.

She posted in December about having been in hospital with heart problems.

AussieDJ said:

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

I think she only posted once over the festive season, to say she’s been seriously ill in hospital. But I can’t recall if she identified the malady.

She posted in December about having been in hospital with heart problems.

Arts had heart problems, but that didn’t stop her!

Bubblecar said:

Michael V said:

Bubblecar said:

Still no sign of monkey skipper.

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

I think she only posted once over the festive season, to say she’s been seriously ill in hospital. But I can’t recall if she identified the malady.

Oh dear.

I hope things are OK.

:(

kii said:

kii said:

Michael V said:

How long has she been MIA?

And was there a pre-missing problem?

Various people here are Facebook friends with her.

I’m not Facebook friends with her and I can see that she’s post 6 hours ago.

Oh, good.

Thanks for that.

nah’s not hot, i’m not delirious, let’s continue on to that oasis in the distance

Very smoky down your way sarahs mum?

transition said:

nah’s not hot, i’m not delirious, let’s continue on to that oasis in the distance

Far too hot here but yours must be off the scale.

Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

I sold a few, but overall, it didn’t even go close to making money. But then, most hobbies don’t. I think of people and their boats for fishing…

Yeah but if you were getting opal, there should likely have been more to find.

Maybe, but I didn’t have serious money and time to put into it.

Yes. it is a hole to pour money down.

Bubblecar said:

Very smoky down your way sarahs mum?

it’s not bad. Still quite a lot of aerial noises going on but I hear a rumour saying the fire is now under control. website does not say that tho.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Very smoky down your way sarahs mum?

it’s not bad. Still quite a lot of aerial noises going on but I hear a rumour saying the fire is now under control. website does not say that tho.

Sounds promising.

Bubblecar said:

transition said:

nah’s not hot, i’m not delirious, let’s continue on to that oasis in the distance

Far too hot here but yours must be off the scale.

It is only 39 here but it will get hotter each day for the next fornight. No rain they say but there are storms just inland of me.

Bubblecar said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Very smoky down your way sarahs mum?

it’s not bad. Still quite a lot of aerial noises going on but I hear a rumour saying the fire is now under control. website does not say that tho.

Sounds promising.

i’ve been packing a just in case bag. I hope I get to unpack it again on wednesday.

kii said:

AussieDJ said:

Bubblecar said:

I think she only posted once over the festive season, to say she’s been seriously ill in hospital. But I can’t recall if she identified the malady.

She posted in December about having been in hospital with heart problems.

Arts had heart problems, but that didn’t stop her!

Damn straight.