https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-26/another-suspected-h5-bird-flu-detected-in-wa/106847566

Kingy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-26/another-suspected-h5-bird-flu-detected-in-wa/106847566

thanks

for readers please also refer to

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/18078

, extracts to follow

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Spiny Norman said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

SCIENCE said:

Peak Warming Man said:

SCIENCE said:

well at least there’s peaceful stability in the middle east these days

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-19/h5-bird-flu-suspected-in-western-australia/106819600

We’ll all be rooned.

ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr5jdy92gyeo

hilarious

pftf

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-20/suspected-australian-h5-bird-flu-case-explained/106819846

Dutch explorers led by Willem de Vlamingh became the first Europeans to see black swans, in Australia. The term subsequently metamorphosed to connote the idea that a perceived impossibility might later be disproved. Taleb notes that in the 19th century, John Stuart Mill used the black swan logical fallacy as a new term to identify falsification. Black swan events were discussed by Taleb in his 2001 book Fooled By Randomness, which concerned financial events. His 2007 book The Black Swan extended the metaphor to events outside financial markets.

Here we go¡

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-23/dead-seabirds-near-sa-border-tested-for-h5n1-bird-flu/106830690

Bird flu has arrived in Australia. What is H5N1, and why does it matter?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BirdFluDownunder/comments/1ud6wyz/bird_flu_has_arrived_in_australia_what_is_h5n1/

there’s a lesson visible right there, even if they entirely avoid mentioning it in the text

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-26/asia-response-to-h5n1-variant-bird-flu/106839290

^

Kingy said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-26/another-suspected-h5-bird-flu-detected-in-wa/106847566

Took 22 years to get here, bit poor for a pandemic class virus.

From WA Wildlife’s Facebook page…

The strong winds over the past few days have brought a number of exhausted pelagic seabirds into the WA Wildlife Hospital, with five pelagic birds admitted over the weekend alone. Most were rescued by our friends at Western Australian Seabird Rescue, with one bird rescued by the WA Wildlife Ambulance.

Among the patients currently in our care are two Giant Petrels and an Albatross, all being managed under quarantine while our veterinary team assesses and treats them.

As part of ongoing H5 bird flu surveillance programs, our veterinarians are collecting samples from these birds and working closely with the Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development (DPIRD). Testing is important to ensure these birds are not carrying H5 bird flu before they progress through rehabilitation, while also contributing to statewide disease surveillance efforts.

With birds continuing to be blown ashore following the recent weather, we are asking the community to keep an eye out for pelagic seabirds and marine turtles, particularly juvenile loggerheads, which can become stranded or cold-stunned after washing into Perth waters.

If you find a pelagic seabird:
• Please do not touch the bird.
• Keep children and pets well away.
• Contact WA Wildlife Hospital on (08) 9417 7105 or Western Australian Seabird Rescue on (08) 6102 8464 for advice.

If you find a marine turtle:
• If it is safe to do so, carefully place the turtle in a well-ventilated box or container on a damp towel.
• Bring it to WA Wildlife Hospital or the nearest wildlife rehabilitation facility with marine turtle treatment capacity.

If you find five or more sick or dead birds in one location, report it immediately to the Emergency Animal Disease Hotline on 1800 675 888.

Our rescue teams continue responding to wildlife using enhanced PPE and biosecurity protocols. The rescue, veterinary treatment and rehabilitation of these birds is resource-intensive, but we remain committed to caring for wildlife, protecting the community and contributing to H5 bird flu surveillance across Western Australia.

With just a few days remaining until the end of the financial year, we would be incredibly grateful if you would consider making a tax-deductible donation. Your support helps us continue providing lifesaving veterinary care while meeting the increased biosecurity requirements during this challenging time.

https://wawildlife.org.au/support/bequests-and-donations/

Thank you for helping us protect wildlife and preserve tomorrow. 💚

kii said:

From WA Wildlife’s Facebook page…

The strong winds over the past few days have brought a number of exhausted pelagic seabirds into the WA Wildlife Hospital, with five pelagic birds admitted over the weekend alone. Most were rescued by our friends at Western Australian Seabird Rescue, with one bird rescued by the WA Wildlife Ambulance.

Among the patients currently in our care are two Giant Petrels and an Albatross, all being managed under quarantine while our veterinary team assesses and treats them.

As part of ongoing H5 bird flu surveillance programs, our veterinarians are collecting samples from these birds and working closely with the Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development (DPIRD). Testing is important to ensure these birds are not carrying H5 bird flu before they progress through rehabilitation, while also contributing to statewide disease surveillance efforts.

With birds continuing to be blown ashore following the recent weather, we are asking the community to keep an eye out for pelagic seabirds and marine turtles, particularly juvenile loggerheads, which can become stranded or cold-stunned after washing into Perth waters.

If you find a pelagic seabird:
• Please do not touch the bird.
• Keep children and pets well away.
• Contact WA Wildlife Hospital on (08) 9417 7105 or Western Australian Seabird Rescue on (08) 6102 8464 for advice.

If you find a marine turtle:
• If it is safe to do so, carefully place the turtle in a well-ventilated box or container on a damp towel.
• Bring it to WA Wildlife Hospital or the nearest wildlife rehabilitation facility with marine turtle treatment capacity.

If you find five or more sick or dead birds in one location, report it immediately to the Emergency Animal Disease Hotline on 1800 675 888.

Our rescue teams continue responding to wildlife using enhanced PPE and biosecurity protocols. The rescue, veterinary treatment and rehabilitation of these birds is resource-intensive, but we remain committed to caring for wildlife, protecting the community and contributing to H5 bird flu surveillance across Western Australia.

With just a few days remaining until the end of the financial year, we would be incredibly grateful if you would consider making a tax-deductible donation. Your support helps us continue providing lifesaving veterinary care while meeting the increased biosecurity requirements during this challenging time.

https://wawildlife.org.au/support/bequests-and-donations/

Thank you for helping us protect wildlife and preserve tomorrow. 💚

I never associated pelagic with birds, I associated it with fish that feed on other fish, but the term has a much broader definition.

From Western Australian Seabird Rescue’s Facebook page…

We’d like to give a big shout out to Lorraine from Bunnings, Joondalup who recently helped out our volunteers with a big discount on PPE needed for our bird flu response! Thank you, Lorraine!

With such a big weather system arriving straight after the first confirmed cases of H5N1 in Western Australia, we needed to quickly supplement our existing supplies of PPE and train up more volunteers who can safely respond to pelagic rescues. We really appreciate all the support we’ve received from the community and will continue working with our state regulators and other organisations to safely rescue seabirds. If you would like to donate, please head to our website: wasr.org.au/donate/

Just a reminder that if you see a sick or injured seabird, call WASR on: 6102 8464. If you see multiple dead birds, call the EAD Hotline on: 1800675888.

We have heard from callers that some dead birds are not being collected. If that is the case, please follow up with the EAD Hotline, or contact your local council or local DBCA Office. New protocols are being rolled out and any issues should be reported.

kii said:

From Western Australian Seabird Rescue’s Facebook page…

We’d like to give a big shout out to Lorraine from Bunnings, Joondalup who recently helped out our volunteers with a big discount on PPE needed for our bird flu response! Thank you, Lorraine!

With such a big weather system arriving straight after the first confirmed cases of H5N1 in Western Australia, we needed to quickly supplement our existing supplies of PPE and train up more volunteers who can safely respond to pelagic rescues. We really appreciate all the support we’ve received from the community and will continue working with our state regulators and other organisations to safely rescue seabirds. If you would like to donate, please head to our website: wasr.org.au/donate/

Just a reminder that if you see a sick or injured seabird, call WASR on: 6102 8464. If you see multiple dead birds, call the EAD Hotline on: 1800675888.

We have heard from callers that some dead birds are not being collected. If that is the case, please follow up with the EAD Hotline, or contact your local council or local DBCA Office. New protocols are being rolled out and any issues should be reported.

Finally the proper PPEs!

New South Wales has its first suspected case of the deadly H5 bird flu in a giant petrel that was found near Hawks Nest, north of Newcastle, on the state’s coast.

If CSIRO testing confirms it is the highly pathogenic H5N1 strain, it would mark the first detection of the deadly disease on the Australian east coast.

Five cases have already been confirmed since late June – four in Western Australia and one in South Australia – all in migratory sub-antarctic birds.

📷: David Osborn/Alamy

Reporting by Lisa Cox. Read the full story. 🔗👉 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/03/bird-flu-australia-first-suspected-case-nsw-deadly-h5n1-virus?CMP=soc_567

kii said:

New South Wales has its first suspected case of the deadly H5 bird flu in a giant petrel that was found near Hawks Nest, north of Newcastle, on the state’s coast.

If CSIRO testing confirms it is the highly pathogenic H5N1 strain, it would mark the first detection of the deadly disease on the Australian east coast.

Five cases have already been confirmed since late June – four in Western Australia and one in South Australia – all in migratory sub-antarctic birds.

📷: David Osborn/Alamy

Reporting by Lisa Cox. Read the full story. 🔗👉 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/03/bird-flu-australia-first-suspected-case-nsw-deadly-h5n1-virus?CMP=soc_567

Good to see NSW catching up to the rest of the country.

https://events.humanitix.com/webinar-h5-bird-flu-and-australian-wildlife

Webinar about bird flu, this Thursday evening.

H5 bird flu strain detected in Australian seabird for first time

Just some Australian, not sure if we should trust them.

SCIENCE said:

Just some Australian, not sure if we should trust them.

I love Prof Raina Macintyre! I watched her a lot of the time during Covid.

A lot of her videos weren’t behind pay walls or you could register for free.

She was generous. She trains all around the world from the CIA to different epidemiologists.

The only country she isn’t involved in with high level training and planning is Australia. It is most intriguing.

Her two books “Dark Winter” and “Vaccination” are thorough and well written.

The white Mainstream Media didn’t treat her with respect so she quit them and went back to teaching and researching. A loss for all Australians.

SCIENCE said:

Just some Australian, not sure if we should trust them.

Bloody.

Possible infection at Noosa

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-13/sick-bird-found-at-noosa-amid-avian-influenza-preparations/106909104

Divine Angel said:

Possible infection at Noosa

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-13/sick-bird-found-at-noosa-amid-avian-influenza-preparations/106909104

Uh Oh.

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Possible infection at Noosa

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-13/sick-bird-found-at-noosa-amid-avian-influenza-preparations/106909104

Uh Oh.

so it’s

“There is no evidence of any mass mortality in wildlife or transmission between wild birds in New Zealand. There has been no detection in poultry,” Mr Hoggard said in a statement on Wednesday

mild and there ain’t nothing to worry about

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-15/new-zealand-reports-first-h5n1-bird-flu-case/106919762

roughbarked said:

:(

This thing is getting around. :(

roughbarked said:

This thing is getting around. :(

Link

It certainly is.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bird flu cases now at 100.

Minister confirms first bird flu mass mortality in Australian wildlife

https://www.agriculture.gov.au/campaigns/birdflu

breathe deep

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Minister confirms first bird flu mass mortality in Australian wildlife

https://www.agriculture.gov.au/campaigns/birdflu

breathe deep

Sources reveal 49 dead birds had refused bird flu jabs after becoming obsessed with Karl Stefanovic podcast

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://www.agriculture.gov.au/campaigns/birdflu

breathe deep

Sources reveal 49 dead birds had refused bird flu jabs after becoming obsessed with Karl Stefanovic podcast

roffle

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

https://www.agriculture.gov.au/campaigns/birdflu

breathe deep

Sources reveal 49 dead birds had refused bird flu jabs after becoming obsessed with Karl Stefanovic podcast

https://x.com/Globalbiosec/status/2084735665078718565

If the forecast is 1 in 5, that will be devastating.

Are they placing some risk birds in quarantine?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are they placing some risk birds in quarantine?

High risk.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are they placing some risk birds in quarantine?

High risk.

They can’t really do that with wild birds. Even species as localised as Little Penguins in Victoria mostly at Phillip Island and in Port Phillip Bay can’t be corralled into enclosures or prevented from heading back to water during the day.

Tau.Neutrino said:

If the forecast is 1 in 5, that will be devastating.

almost a decimation

Witty Rejoinder said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are they placing some risk birds in quarantine?

High risk.

They can’t really do that with wild birds. Even species as localised as Little Penguins in Victoria mostly at Phillip Island and in Port Phillip Bay can’t be corralled into enclosures or prevented from heading back to water during the day.

Have you seen the footage of them trying to quarantine Big Bird
Brutal, he took out half a dozen men before they took him down

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If the forecast is 1 in 5, that will be devastating.

almost a decimation

Or a double decimation?

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

If the forecast is 1 in 5, that will be devastating.

almost a decimation

Or a double decimation?

pentation*

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/abc-news-daily/what-happens-when-bird-flu-hits-egg-farms/106996166

*: wait they’ve used that name for something else

roughbarked said:

Game on¡

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Game on¡

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Game on¡

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Game on¡

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

so it’s a perfect opportunity to get up close and personal to see them specimens we normally only watch from a distance

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

so it’s a perfect opportunity to get up close and personal to see them specimens we normally only watch from a distance

Indeed I hope it does not go that far.

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

roughbarked said:

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

so it’s a perfect opportunity to get up close and personal to see them specimens we normally only watch from a distance

Indeed I hope it does not go that far.

My birds and I, we keep that respectful distance. Close enough to be aware we are friends.

A Little Wattle Bird was found dead in our front yard this morning.

Michael V said:

A Little Wattle Bird was found dead in our front yard this morning.

:(

Michael V said:

A Little Wattle Bird was found dead in our front yard this morning.

Around here I’d be blaming a raptor/maggie/owl etc.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

A Little Wattle Bird was found dead in our front yard this morning.

Around here I’d be blaming a raptor/maggie/owl etc.

But not likely to be the flu.

Michael V said:

A Little Wattle Bird was found dead in our front yard this morning.

Did you report it?

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

A Little Wattle Bird was found dead in our front yard this morning.

Around here I’d be blaming a raptor/maggie/owl etc.

But not likely to be the flu.

Possibly attacked by the peewee that is aggressively defending its nearby nest. But, out of an abundance of caution, it was buried without touching it.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Game on¡

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

WTF? What?
Why mention Bill Oddie?
Human flu vaccinations do not protect humans from H5N1….afaik.
Then again I have been asleep for the past 5 hours so wtf do I know? Maybe the world has changed in that time…

One bird was found dead near Narooma on the state’s south coast and the other near Wentworth in western NSW, according to the state government.

Both birds were greater crested terns.

Wentworth is the scary part of that.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

WTF? What?
Why mention Bill Oddie?
Human flu vaccinations do not protect humans from H5N1….afaik.
Then again I have been asleep for the past 5 hours so wtf do I know? Maybe the world has changed in that time…

Flu vacc does cover it.

and because Bill often talked about it.

Yes. You probably were asleep.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

WTF? What?
Why mention Bill Oddie?
Human flu vaccinations do not protect humans from H5N1….afaik.
Then again I have been asleep for the past 5 hours so wtf do I know? Maybe the world has changed in that time…

Flu vacc does cover it.

and because Bill often talked about it.

Yes. You probably were asleep.

Huh?
Human flu vaccinations do NOT cover H5N1.
Bill often talked about what? His love of birds or the bird flu? Lots of people love birds and are worried about H5N1. Why specifically mention Oddie?
I just said that I was asleep for the past 5 hours – there’s no “probably” about it.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

WTF? What?
Why mention Bill Oddie?
Human flu vaccinations do not protect humans from H5N1….afaik.
Then again I have been asleep for the past 5 hours so wtf do I know? Maybe the world has changed in that time…

Flu vacc does cover it.

and because Bill often talked about it.

Yes. You probably were asleep.

Huh?
Human flu vaccinations do NOT cover H5N1.
Bill often talked about what? His love of birds or the bird flu? Lots of people love birds and are worried about H5N1. Why specifically mention Oddie?
I just said that I was asleep for the past 5 hours – there’s no “probably” about it.

In discussions with my vaccination nurse, I was told that the flu vacc does cover H5N1.
About Bill, yes he was very concerned about both birds and their future with bird flu. As am myself.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

SCIENCE said:

Game on¡

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

https://www.cdc.gov.au/diseases/bird-flu-avian-influenza

Link

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Being llike Bill Oddie in my love of birds, It is quite worrying as many shore birds travel inland long distances in Aussie.

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

https://www.cdc.gov.au/diseases/bird-flu-avian-influenza

Link

ta

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

https://www.cdc.gov.au/diseases/bird-flu-avian-influenza

Link

ta

Good to know That I’m taking a preventative.

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Not actually worried for myself as unlike the antivaxxers, I have kept my flu injections up to date.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

https://www.cdc.gov.au/diseases/bird-flu-avian-influenza

Link

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

https://www.cdc.gov.au/diseases/bird-flu-avian-influenza

Link

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

https://www.cdc.gov.au/diseases/bird-flu-avian-influenza

Link

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Better than nuthin’.

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

The risk to people in Australia is currently considered low. Bird flu does not easily infect people. This strain has not been reported in people here.

People in Australia should take simple steps to protect themselves against bird flu.

so getting your flu shots is advised.

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

I live near piggeries, I have TB caused scar tissue emphysema. I ask and take whatever preventatives are on offer.

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

The risk to people in Australia is currently considered low. Bird flu does not easily infect people. This strain has not been reported in people here.

People in Australia should take simple steps to protect themselves against bird flu.

so getting your flu shots is advised.

Correct.

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

I also read that.

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

I also read that.

So why the rant?

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

The risk to people in Australia is currently considered low. Bird flu does not easily infect people. This strain has not been reported in people here.

People in Australia should take simple steps to protect themselves against bird flu.

so getting your flu shots is advised.

Correct.

No vaccination will prevent you getting that disease, I think two shots for measles is the most effective at prevention.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

I also read that.

So why the rant?

cos we’re men and she wants to win?

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

I also read that.

So why the rant?

I also live in a waterfowl area.
I do ask what is the best I can get for prevention and if there is none better than what we have then best we have is what we have.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

I also read that.

So why the rant?

Not ranting, just clarifying your nonsensical bullshit crap. Plus you like to twist your words when you are challenged.

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The risk to people in Australia is currently considered low. Bird flu does not easily infect people. This strain has not been reported in people here.

People in Australia should take simple steps to protect themselves against bird flu.

so getting your flu shots is advised.

Correct.

No vaccination will prevent you getting that disease, I think two shots for measles is the most effective at prevention.

What will prevent me is staying away from birds and pigs

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Correct.

No vaccination will prevent you getting that disease, I think two shots for measles is the most effective at prevention.

What will prevent me is staying away from birds and pigs

keeping inside with the windows and doors closed and the curtains drawn.

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

depends what you mean by cover hey, fact is that vaccinations or infections at the time can actually prevent concurrent infections while the immune system is doing battle

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

I also read that.

So why the rant?

cos we’re men and she wants to win?

You’re both such a waste of time.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

https://www.cdc.gov.au/diseases/bird-flu-avian-influenza

Link

ta

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

It will cover previous versions of H5N1 that are included in the current flu jab It won’t cover the latest variant but may help humans in a way not afforded to wild birds.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

I also read that.

So why the rant?

Not ranting, just clarifying your nonsensical bullshit crap. Plus you like to twist your words when you are challenged.

I don’t feel challenged. I simply stated that as far as my medical staff were concerned at last visit, that I was adequately covered for all eventualities, at the time. I was not quoting updated advice to today.

SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

depends what you mean by cover hey, fact is that vaccinations or infections at the time can actually prevent concurrent infections while the immune system is doing battle

Plus you don’t want those different viruses to get together and produce some unholy spawn.

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

Bogsnorkler said:

No vaccination will prevent you getting that disease, I think two shots for measles is the most effective at prevention.

What will prevent me is staying away from birds and pigs

keeping inside with the windows and doors closed and the curtains drawn.

It is what I do when I am not outside communicating with the birds.

SCIENCE said:

Bogsnorkler said:

kii said:

So…there you go…the human flu vaccine doesn’t cover H5N1.

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

depends what you mean by cover hey, fact is that vaccinations or infections at the time can actually prevent concurrent infections while the immune system is doing battle

My immune system has not been a problem, yet.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Prevention
Vaccination
Getting an annual flu vaccination is recommended for all people older than 6 months.

Vaccination is especially important for people at greater risk of exposure, as well as people who work with or care for pigs.

The annual flu vaccine does not protect against bird flu but prevents people becoming sick with both seasonal and bird flu viruses at the same time.

I also read that.

So why the rant?

She’s lonely and we’re the best friends she has

“…my medical staff…”

LOLOLOLOL…..hiccup……LOLOLOL

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

So why the rant?

cos we’re men and she wants to win?

You’re both such a waste of time.

So why waste it on us?
22,000 days, it’s not a lot but it’s all we’ve got..

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

So why the rant?

cos we’re men and she wants to win?

You’re both such a waste of time.

Yet you devote so much of your own to them

kii said:

“…my medical staff…”

LOLOLOLOL…..hiccup……LOLOLOL

Well, they are the people who do treat me. Of course I’m not the only one they treat and I believe they treat others equally.
Which is by the way a lot better than you do.

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

roughbarked said:

So why the rant?

cos we’re men and she wants to win?

You’re both such a waste of time.

There Is A Solution ¡

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Bogsnorkler said:

cos we’re men and she wants to win?

You’re both such a waste of time.

So why waste it on us?
22,000 days, it’s not a lot but it’s all we’ve got..

^

A Thoumillion Heartbeats

LOL who cares

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-12/birds-banned-melbourne-royal-show-2026/106901838

just

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2026-08-12/phillip-island-penguins-to-be-rounded-up-for-bird-flu-vaccine/107025662

L L L L L Let it rrrrrrip¡

Now found in Tasmania. Making six states.

Cymek said:

I wonder if the bird flu infection spreads similar to human viruses, obviously slower but I wonder if the pattern is the same

um influenza viruses are influenza viruses

SCIENCE said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if the bird flu infection spreads similar to human viruses, obviously slower but I wonder if the pattern is the same

um influenza viruses are influenza viruses

Yes the pattern across the planet I meant not the infection method.
Like how Covid was mapped as it spread across the planet

sure, slow the spread, go

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-16/h5n1-bird-flu-inevitable-nt-birdwatchers-conservationists/107042178

we hope yous’re using the time to get the ecosystems ready for it though because otherwise what are yous slowing it for

SCIENCE said:

sure, slow the spread, go

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-16/h5n1-bird-flu-inevitable-nt-birdwatchers-conservationists/107042178

we hope yous’re using the time to get the ecosystems ready for it though because otherwise what are yous slowing it for

“It could be weeks, it could be months, but it’s a national event, it’s the biggest national disease event that has ever occurred in Australia for wildlife.”

They could do critically endangered species.

This prime birding area in the Lower Clarence has been discussed lately on local ABC radio because of its being the most likely spot for an outbreak in north coast NSW. The genius presenter enquired of the ecologist if they would be catching and vaccinating black swans. Haha

I’ve never ventured in there, braving the mosquitoes and the snakes, to check it out.

https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/visit-a-park/parks/everlasting-swamp-national-park aka the ‘Kakadu of the south’.

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

Good lad.

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

don’t breathe deep

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

I suppose it was not necessarily a case of Bird Flu. It may just have been shagged out after a long squawk.

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

Then what? Did the bird flu SWAT team arrive to gently investigate the corpse?

Ian said:

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

I suppose it was not necessarily a case of Bird Flu. It may just have been shagged out after a long squawk.

Or squawked out from a long shag. It’s that time of year if they want bird babies.

Divine Angel said:

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

Then what? Did the bird flu SWAT team arrive to gently investigate the corpse?

Dunno. I left the scene.

As of 4pm AEST, 19 August 2026, Australia has 277 confirmed events of H5 bird flu in wild birds.

10 in Western Australia (WA)
170 in South Australia (SA)
9 in New South Wales (NSW)
1 in Queensland (QLD)
81 in Victoria (VIC)
6 in Tasmania (TAS)

The nearest report to Coffs is in Giant Petrels at Port Macquarie.

Ian said:

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

I suppose it was not necessarily a case of Bird Flu. It may just have been shagged out after a long squawk.

I’d go for hit by a car.

buffy said:

Ian said:

Ian said:

I found a seagull today lying dead on the verge in a street just off the main drag in Coffs Harbour. It looked quite healthy, well, except for the fact of being stone dead… although I didn’t examine it up real close.

I informed the vet surgery which happened to be 2 doors down the road.

I suppose it was not necessarily a case of Bird Flu. It may just have been shagged out after a long squawk.

I’d go for hit by a car.

A definite possibility. Although this was a quiet back street and the bird was showing no apparent injuries or blood.

The ag department website mentions cases in silver gulls.. don’t know where.

Ian said:

buffy said:

Ian said:

I suppose it was not necessarily a case of Bird Flu. It may just have been shagged out after a long squawk.

I’d go for hit by a car.

A definite possibility. Although this was a quiet back street and the bird was showing no apparent injuries or blood.

The ag department website mentions cases in silver gulls.. don’t know where.

We have a lot of roadkill around here. Very often the birds don’t look damaged. Of course, sometimes it’s just bits everywhere if a B double did the mangling.

A long-nosed fur seal has died from H5 bird flu in South Australia, marking the first confirmed case in a mammal on the Australian mainland.

The seal was found dead at Beachport on Wednesday on the state’s Limestone Coast.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/23/fur-seal-death-first-australian-mainland-mammal-h5-bird-flu

Divine Angel said:

A long-nosed fur seal has died from H5 bird flu in South Australia, marking the first confirmed case in a mammal on the Australian mainland.

The seal was found dead at Beachport on Wednesday on the state’s Limestone Coast.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/23/fur-seal-death-first-australian-mainland-mammal-h5-bird-flu

That’s 😞😞😞

fkn LOL though

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-26/red-fox-suspected-of-h5n1-infection-in-adelaide-suburb/107079798

starting to see more local birds unresponsive on the ground, are we fucked

SCIENCE said:

starting to see more local birds unresponsive on the ground, are we fucked

Could be, could be rogered.

SCIENCE said:

starting to see more local birds unresponsive on the ground, are we fucked

It is concerning.

I did H5N1 training more than 20 years ago.

I stopped doing migratory birds after that.

The consensus was, at the time, is you can’t work with endangered/critically endangered species of birds, if you have been exposed or had contracted Bird Flu.

To collect the dead bodies meant you had to wear a virtual moon suit.

They showed us a very sobering documentary of a positive person being confined and their house was wrapped up with inch thick plastic. Their whole area was shut down.

The way Trump shite the bed with Covid, Biden shite the bed with Bird Flu, and he had the Pandemic Handbook to tick off items to do.

Biden didn’t institute the ramping up of testing, testing sites, and the people who worked in the testing laboratories quit because of the stress of not being able to keep up with the testing required, there was no contact tracing, no ring vaccinations, no mandatory protocols of disposal of carcasses (in American cows), the carcasses were lying in the fields or road sides, he didn’t provide paid sick day for workers, and their families, no mandated free PPEs, etc.

Farms/workers weren’t given extra staff to do the correct hygiene processes, no extra netting over water and feed troughs was provided. You’d need educational programmes and SOPs that have some financial incentives, when followed.

When the MSM suddenly reported Bird Flu blaming it on Trump, so all the virologists, epidemiologists, ornithologists etc came out of the wood and slammed them. There should have been daily reports from the time H5N1 was found spreading in other species and particularly when it was spreading from farm to farm.

Once Bird Flu spreads from wildlife to domestic flocks, and then to people. It is a five alarm fire. Then there’s the issues surrounding wild animals being infected by domestic animals. There a whole lot of barriers and netting to be put in place and if you need to move to another area on the farm/aviaries/ enclosures you’d need to change clothes and disinfect then. Use particular boots for specific areas in aviaries and farms.

You’d have to have boot disinfection you baths every where at each entrance designed so there was no way around, only through.

Similarly, there would have to be trough baths designed so that all cars, trucks, lorries, and delivery vehicles would have to drive through so their wheels were disinfected entering and leaving the premises.

It is staggering what Biden didn’t do. No strict biosecurity measures, no active government surveillance, and no safe hygiene practices. It was essential that Biden jumped on it early.

There is also no testing of the meat, you’d have to be brave to eat it. 

The Chinese slaughter millions of animals if Bird Flu spreads. That is what needs to happen. Even if Trump had the capacity and acted now I don’t know how they would contain it. They would have to euthanize every domestic animal who has been on a farm that had positive results. There was no capacity created to do the required testing. So it would be difficult to know where to go. And there has to be financial compensation, otherwise the veracity of reporting would be a concern. 

I have no idea how the ongoing spread in wildlife populations would look like. You’d have to have highly skilled individuals. Who could do quarantine, capture and release for critically endangered species. It would be challenging to do.

What Australia is implementing. Link

Have people become infected with bird flu?

Peak Warming Man said:

Have people become infected with bird flu?

Not yet, as far as we know.

uh dudes it’s antarctica, snowflakes don’t melt

The Australian Antarctic Division will launch a mission to extract personnel from Macquarie Island in the Southern Ocean due to the psychological risk posed by a potential outbreak of bird flu. The sub-Antarctic island, 1,500 kilometres south-east of Hobart, is a World Heritage-listed wildlife sanctuary with up to 4 million seabirds and 100,000 seals. The island is currently free of the deadly H5 strain of bird flu. But once it arrives, up to 90 per cent of baby elephant seals could perish, as happened on Heard Island over summer, when 13,000 pups died from bird flu. The Australian government says exposing expeditioners to such harrowing scenes is untenable.

ah that’s right this is the modern time when seeing on social media that there are books on shelves at the library or store causes unacceptable distress

First DDT Now the Flu: Peregrine Falcons in San Francisco Bay Area Hit Hard by H5N1 Variant
PRESS RELEASE

Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) featured prominently in the news during 2020 as it took the lives of millions of birds across the globe. While the worst seems to be behind us, population-level effects are just now emerging. A new study published in the Journal of Raptor Research, titled “Rapid Decline of Nesting Peregrine Falcons in the San Francisco Bay Region of California Synchronous with an Outbreak of H5N1 Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza,” reports an alarming decrease in the number of occupied territories for a population of Peregrine Falcons (Falco peregrinus) that has maintained a longstanding presence in coastal California. As top predators, peregrines show warning signs when the health of their food web is jeopardized. They indicated the threat of DDT to wildlife in the 1960’s, and they are once again sounding the alarm to those who know where to look.

Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) is an infectious disease that typically remains at low levels in wild bird populations. However, in 2020, the variant H5N1 emerged and ran amuck in what is now considered one of the most severe disease outbreaks to affect large animal populations ever recorded. Infections were documented in 400 bird species and at least 50 mammal species that year. Waterbirds are particularly susceptible to becoming carriers of HPAI, so predators and scavengers that feed on them are at a higher risk of exposure. Peregrines are master bird hunters and therefore primed to encounter this bird-born illness. However, it can be challenging to verify cause-of-death for raptors because of their low densities and the challenge of finding their carcasses, so raptor biologists must employ other tools to investigate population-level responses.

Lead author on the study Zeka Glucs, Director or the Predatory Bird Research Group at the University of California Santa Cruz, worked with a team of researchers to compare the presence of Peregrine Falcons on known territories in the Bay Area before and after the H5N1 outbreak, which was first detected in the state in 2022. They accessed a long-term dataset from 2000-2025 to examine trends in peregrine presence, underscoring the importance of maintaining research that spans decades.

The team found that prior to the H5N1 outbreak, 47 peregrine territories in the Bay Area were consistently occupied with stable breeding pairs. Following the outbreak, peregrine presence on these same territories dropped by 65% in three years, and the decline continues.

Concerned residents have contributed to this work out of fondness for the species. “For many, losing these pairs feels like a personal and community loss,” says Glucs, “so we celebrate what we can to keep our hope alive: returning pairs and successful fledges.” To this end, his team is organizing a volunteer nest survey project called the California Peregrine Project to invite more involvement from the public.

The team posits that the trend in the Bay Area could be indicative of similar declines in other parts of the peregrine’s range. They also emphasize that peregrines can be reliable signals for the presence of HPAI. “We hope our work will help illuminate the severity of the influenza’s impacts on Peregrine Falcons in our region, inform protections for the remaining pairs, and once again show the value of these birds as a highly sensitive sentinel species,” says Glucs. Peregrines have long been a lauded conservation comeback story, following their brush with extinction in the 1960s due to DDT. Keeping them in the skies is priority for many, and studies like this bolster collective knowledge of where the species needs the most support.

Glucs et al. (2026).
Read full paper at https://bioone.org/journals/journal-of-raptor-research/volume-60/issue-3/jrr26022/Rapid-Decline-of-Nesting-Peregrine-Falcons-in-the-San-Francisco/10.3356/jrr26022.full

Divine Angel said:

First DDT Now the Flu: Peregrine Falcons in San Francisco Bay Area Hit Hard by H5N1 Variant
PRESS RELEASE

Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) featured prominently in the news during 2020 as it took the lives of millions of birds across the globe. While the worst seems to be behind us, population-level effects are just now emerging. A new study published in the Journal of Raptor Research, titled “Rapid Decline of Nesting Peregrine Falcons in the San Francisco Bay Region of California Synchronous with an Outbreak of H5N1 Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza,” reports an alarming decrease in the number of occupied territories for a population of Peregrine Falcons (Falco peregrinus) that has maintained a longstanding presence in coastal California. As top predators, peregrines show warning signs when the health of their food web is jeopardized. They indicated the threat of DDT to wildlife in the 1960’s, and they are once again sounding the alarm to those who know where to look.

Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) is an infectious disease that typically remains at low levels in wild bird populations. However, in 2020, the variant H5N1 emerged and ran amuck in what is now considered one of the most severe disease outbreaks to affect large animal populations ever recorded. Infections were documented in 400 bird species and at least 50 mammal species that year. Waterbirds are particularly susceptible to becoming carriers of HPAI, so predators and scavengers that feed on them are at a higher risk of exposure. Peregrines are master bird hunters and therefore primed to encounter this bird-born illness. However, it can be challenging to verify cause-of-death for raptors because of their low densities and the challenge of finding their carcasses, so raptor biologists must employ other tools to investigate population-level responses.

Lead author on the study Zeka Glucs, Director or the Predatory Bird Research Group at the University of California Santa Cruz, worked with a team of researchers to compare the presence of Peregrine Falcons on known territories in the Bay Area before and after the H5N1 outbreak, which was first detected in the state in 2022. They accessed a long-term dataset from 2000-2025 to examine trends in peregrine presence, underscoring the importance of maintaining research that spans decades.

The team found that prior to the H5N1 outbreak, 47 peregrine territories in the Bay Area were consistently occupied with stable breeding pairs. Following the outbreak, peregrine presence on these same territories dropped by 65% in three years, and the decline continues.

Concerned residents have contributed to this work out of fondness for the species. “For many, losing these pairs feels like a personal and community loss,” says Glucs, “so we celebrate what we can to keep our hope alive: returning pairs and successful fledges.” To this end, his team is organizing a volunteer nest survey project called the California Peregrine Project to invite more involvement from the public.

The team posits that the trend in the Bay Area could be indicative of similar declines in other parts of the peregrine’s range. They also emphasize that peregrines can be reliable signals for the presence of HPAI. “We hope our work will help illuminate the severity of the influenza’s impacts on Peregrine Falcons in our region, inform protections for the remaining pairs, and once again show the value of these birds as a highly sensitive sentinel species,” says Glucs. Peregrines have long been a lauded conservation comeback story, following their brush with extinction in the 1960s due to DDT. Keeping them in the skies is priority for many, and studies like this bolster collective knowledge of where the species needs the most support.

Glucs et al. (2026).
Read full paper at https://bioone.org/journals/journal-of-raptor-research/volume-60/issue-3/jrr26022/Rapid-Decline-of-Nesting-Peregrine-Falcons-in-the-San-Francisco/10.3356/jrr26022.full

Interesting, Ta.